I placed my order with the above mentioned site. I then reached out to them via email and ask them how they were offering the knife when every other online knife store was out of stock and I ask how they could sell it so far under retail. I then ask if they could verify if they actually had the knife on-hand. The wrote me today and said that it was now listed as out-of-stock and they apologized and said they would refund the payment. This refund is pending in my account. So, I never got the knife, never would have got the knife, by the time I a distracted buyer would have said hey, it sure has been a long time, it probably would be to late to get a refund.