Kudu Question

afishhunter

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When I bought my CS Kudu's and Eland's ... 5? .... 6? years ago, the blades were "4116 Krupp" according to CS. (They didn't say "1.4116 Krupp", but I'm guessing that's what it is.)

I was just looking at getting a new Kudu. However, the blade steel is now 5CR15MoV.
I don't know much about knife steels. I am aware however, that 7CR 14MoV is (allegedly) "equivalent" to 440A. (supposedly 4116 Krupp is in the same ballpark, from what I've heard.)
5CR15MoV is below 7CR14MoV. What is 5CR15MoV "Equivalent" to?
When did CS change to the 5CR15MoV?
Is this "new" steel as good as the "old" 4116/1.4116 Krupp?
Is the Kudu still made in S. Africa? The listing didn't say where they are made now.
 
I’m no metallurgist, but I wouldn’t count on it being an improvement. Also, I don’t believe the Kudu was ever made in Africa. The Okapi, which the Kudu is inspired by is, but I believe the Kudu was always made in Asia.

I was going to buy another one the other day as mine is a bit wore out and declined when I saw the steel change. I am fine with Taiwan, but avoid Chinese products when possible.
 
5Cr15Mov is a low-end stainless Steel (it’s a Chinese copy of the famous German X50CrMoV15), high in Chromium for corrosion resistance. It was made for the knife industry, especially for kitchen knives.
 
The kudu is a great knife still. I just got mine. 5cr15mov is a low end budget steel, but cold steel did a great job with it. And for a $10 dollar knife, who can complain?
 
It's a Walmart blister-pack grade knife. If that. Give them away as Christmas presents to the nephews. Pair the knife with a whetstone so they can learn to sharpen. And if its a nephew you really don't like get them the Lite version with no lock at all. Knife and bandaides should do it.
 
It's a Walmart blister-pack grade knife. If that. Give them away as Christmas presents to the nephews. Pair the knife with a whetstone so they can learn to sharpen. And if its a nephew you really don't like get them the Lite version with no lock at all. Knife and bandaides should do it.
I'm sorry you don't know how to use a folding knife without a locking blade. :(

FYI: People have been using slipjoints (AKA: "Springknives") for hundreds of years, and friction folders (no spring to prevent the blade from opening when not in use, or closing between cuts) for over 2,100 years, (oldest folding knife found so far (a bone handled friction folder) dates to between 600 and 400 BCE) without cutting themselves or amputating body parts.

The first knife I gave my nephew/godson was an Opinel number 7 friction folder, at age five. (use of the ring lock is optional. Before 1955 Opinel didn't have the ring lock on any knife. Currently it is only on the Number 6 and higher. Size 5 and below still don't have a lock) I'm told by his parents he never used the lock and removed it. (it snaps on and off, with pliers or a screwdriver) I also gave him a pocket "Medium" Arkansas stone, and taught him how to sharpen a knife.
Since then I've given him some multi-blade slipjoints, and a SK Blades "Lil' Jack" Buck 112 SFO with a D2 clip point blade, as a High School Graduation present, since he not only graduated a few years early, at age eleven, but at the top of his class, as well.

I've carried a slipjoint every day since 1960, when I got my first knife, at age 5. I added a Buck 110 lockback to my belt in 1967 or 1968, and have switched between a Buck 110, Old Timer 7OT or 6OT, and a two blade slipjoint folding hunter on my belt ever since. (on some days I carry both a 110 and two blade slipjoint on my right hip.) Guess what? 9.99 times out of 10 when I needed/need a knife for some task, I grabbed/grab the slipjoint out of my pocket and used/use it.

I still have my ten original and complete fingers.
The normal cutting/slicing action forces the blade open; not closed. If you do something stupid, like stab something or try to cut/slice something with the blade spine, then yes; the blade can (and usually does) close on the user. How hard it closes depends on the pressure being applied to the blade spine, and to a lesser extent, the strength of the spring. (one of several reasons I avoid knives with "bear trap" springs.)
I was never stupid enough to play mumbly peg, so I still have all ten of my original toes, too. :)

Have I ever gotten cut? Yes. Nothing worse than a paper-cut though. I doubt there is a knife user from pre-Neanderthal days to the present who hasn't (or won't) get a cut from his or her knife during their lifetime.
Was I cut because I was using a slipjoint? Nope. Operator "oops" all two or three times. (once was using a fixed blade, when I was 10 or 11, helping make a yummy whitetail deer my step pop harvested into freezer size bits, pieces, and parts.)
I think I've had more paper cuts over the decades, than knife cuts.

I understand that the Kudu and Eland are budget price point knives. Believe it or not, not everyone can afford over $20 ~ $30 for a knife.

All my Cold Steel knives are from their budget line(s):
3 or 4 each Kudu and Eland; a "G.I. TANTO"; two "Heavy Machete" and one of the larger model Kukri Machete.

Most of my 70 plus knives are sub $15 Rough Ryder slipjoints, (most are sub $10). There's a couple $23 ~ $27 Offshore Schrade and Buck slipjoints, a Colt, and a couple offshore Marbles, as well.
My most expensive knives are Buck 110's, ranging in price from $28.95 (plus state tax) to $99 for an SK Blades "The Gentleman" SFO with a CPM154 drop point blade, German Silver bolsters an liners, and G10 covers.
I also have a couple of their call it "$30.⁰⁰"Smoke Jumper 110LT SFO's with a clip point CPM154 blade. (the extra Smoke Jumper is going to donate it's blade to one of my standard production brass and wood 110's, when I have the funds to send them to Buck for the blade transplants. Don't lose the warranty that way.)
Insofar as Buck Idaho produced slipjoints are concerned, I have one standard production 301, and the 2018 Blade Forum's 2 blade 301 (with elk covers and CPM154 blades) At over $44 for a standard production 301, I'll never be able to get another, since I was forced to retire for medical reasons three years ago.
Buck fixed blades I have a white handle made in Idaho Walmart SFO 877, and 470, also made in Idaho.
 
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I just received a new Kudu Lite as a free gift with an order from SMKW. I am so impressed with this very inexpensive knife! I can't speak for the blade steel yet, but the fit/finish and action is far above its price point (six bucks)!

If I didn't already have so many knives around, this is the knife I'd buy multiples of to keep in the car, boat, tackle box, etc., etc.
 
The Kudu is a winner in my book, an improvement in materials and build from the original Okapi (I have owned one). Good budget steel, locks up solid, strong enough for everything you do with a folder. I think it makes a great travel knife and makeshift kitchen knife.
 
I'm sorry you don't know how to use a folding knife without a locking blade. :(

You're 100% right, but I would like to add a remark about that specific model (Kudu Lite).

Unlike most of the slip joint folding knives, the Kudu Lite can actually be locked with your finger. Of course it's not a real, mechanical lock; so the "lock" will be as strong as your thumb's strength. But it's enough (I guess) to put the Kudu Lite in a special category among the slip joint knives. It's an ingenious design.

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I just received a new Kudu Lite as a free gift with an order from SMKW. I am so impressed with this very inexpensive knife! I can't speak for the blade steel yet, but the fit/finish and action is far above its price point (six bucks)!

If I didn't already have so many knives around, this is the knife I'd buy multiples of to keep in the car, boat, tackle box, etc., etc.

Amen to that... Because of the crisis I haven't bought any of the more expensive Cold Steel products, but I got two Kudu Lite. What a lovely little beast.
 
I've got a couple Lights, and one regular Kudu. I much prefer the Lights because they lack the ring which I find uncomfortable. But they are all good, functional user knives.
 
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