Let's talk Northwoods

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by SadSappySucker, Feb 20, 2017.

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  1. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Asking pertinent questions is a sign of intelligence, IMO!!!;)
    When the top bolster, where the pivot on a Jack is usually located, is missing, the knife is considered to be a "shadow" pattern.
    There is confusion when the other bolster, often called the "bottom" bolster or cap bolster is missing. Then the knife is often referred to as a barehead!
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    This is a shadow pattern (no bolsters). Shadow 1.jpg
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  2. Scott Free

    Scott Free

    Sep 15, 1999
    My Fremont Jack arrived yesterday. It's my first Northwoods, and my second GEC-made knife. My tip was fine. It opens fine. Closing is great from open to half stop. From half stop to close is mushy. I've cleaned and flushed twice with WD40 followed by an oiling with Mil-tec. I then opened and closed one hundred times. It's definitely improved but still mushy. Maybe I'll try something other than WD40.

    I reprofiled and sharpened as soon as I decided I was going to keep it. It's VERY sharp. This morning my wife used it to cut out a recipe from a magazine. I just finished using it to cut up a steak. It's a user and a keeper. I can live with mushy if I can't solve it.
     
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  3. TheFactor

    TheFactor Life is good ! Platinum Member

    Feb 26, 2015
    I’ve found with some Gec and Nw a like when closing from half stop and its a little lazy . With normal use and flushing they always break in nicely with a nice snap .
    So no need to worry at least from my personal experience :thumbsup:
    I’ve got a NW Fremont Jack on the way from the latest run and hoping that still applies :)
     
  4. MerryMadMonk

    MerryMadMonk Platinum Member Platinum Member

    May 22, 2011
    Hey, Perry! Good to see ya, man! And thanks!
     
  5. Vaporstang

    Vaporstang Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2014
    Received this weekend. After flushing and working it, I am pleased with the walk and talk.
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  6. kaput

    kaput

    553
    Mar 17, 2016
    Now that one really looks cool, especially the back!
     
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  7. DavidLim

    DavidLim

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    Jul 28, 2016
    2 stags arrived yesterday.

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  8. The Logical One

    The Logical One Gold Member Gold Member

    May 31, 2011
    Here’s the pair I scored on Thursday. I’m new to traditionals so for me the knives feel fine in terms of opening and closing action. A tad gritty but not bad. What I did notice between the two particular Fremonts I got is that the mammoth covers are quite a bit thicker. The two almost feels like different knives. Something else I noticed that I’m not sure if it’s normal is on the mammoth one the blade would have a slight bounce when I close it.

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  9. l9ll

    l9ll

    24
    Jun 4, 2016
    First off, I'm a HUGE fan of GEC and the Northwoods brand. I was very excited to see the Smoke Burlap option on this Fremont release and was very fortunate to get one. When I opened the knife, it wouldn't snap closed at all. After flushing and a good bit of working, it is still VERY lazy closing. In fact (as shown below), it will actually stick open at any point between half stop and closed. For the record, I've never had to flush any of my previous Northwoods (11 in total) or GEC's (I lost count...). They all had perfect action with excellent walk-and-talk. I also notices a pretty severe up-sweep in the grind on this Fremont. The others have this to an extent, but this one is definitely the most prominent. Don't get me wrong, I love the knife and it is definitely serviceable, but I was a bit disappointed with the typically impeccable fit and finish I've always experienced with GEC.

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  10. singin50

    singin50

    Jan 31, 2012
    Beautiful Fremont! I will be very surprised if after some use and a few thousand opening and closings, the action will be more to your liking in time.
     
  11. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Bounce? Can you elaborate?
     
  12. The Logical One

    The Logical One Gold Member Gold Member

    May 31, 2011
    It doesn’t do it every time, but when I push it down to snap it close it almost seems like it would stop just a hair short from the bottom, bounce up by a hair and then go to the fully closed position. I could hear it and visually see it as well.

    Similar to 1911’s issue it would sometimes “lazy close”. I’m not too worried as I’m sure it just takes some breaking in. If I don’t flush it and relube do traditional slipjoints just break in over time?
     
  13. cbr1000

    cbr1000

    Jan 31, 2013
    Drives me nuts when I get knives like this. On first appearance it seems like it's an easy fix, but as you probably know it is not. This will need a significant amount of material removed to correct. Hard to tell from your pictures, I'm guessing removal half the height of the sharpening choil. The other bummer is the more material you remove the thicker your blade and then you start kicking around needing a regrind. If it's a user it will be a bonding experience at best.
     
  14. kaput

    kaput

    553
    Mar 17, 2016
    Oh, just a few THOUSAND openings you say?! Lol o_O;)

    Someone also posted a video, somewhere, he could one hand open their Fremont with a flick. And when the blade closed, it would push or bounce even further into the handle. I had never seen anything like it.
     
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  15. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Is this a feature on some knives , like the damper on a drawer , so you can't slam them shut?
     
  16. jrawk

    jrawk

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    Jul 14, 2014
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  17. blanco112

    blanco112

    Nov 1, 2016
    Finally got home to my Fremont that was sitting in my mailbox since Saturday while we were out of town :eek:. First off the knife is beautiful. I love the covers. And although I have a few Deltas I thought would be very similar, the sleeveboard shape is much more comfortable in hand. The thickness is great. And it's the first stag I've owned I really feel like I can use comfortably.

    Unfortunately, like many others the walk and talk was fairly atrocious out of the box. It often failed to fully snap shut, instead getting hung up just before closing. Someone above described it like the safety feature on drawers and that was exactly what it was like. I've been working some mineral oil into the joint and thankfully that issue seems to have gone away. Still fairly weak pull but I can live with that for now. Unfortunately I don't know why this seems to be such a common issue with GEC. I told a friend of mine they are definitely precise if not accurate.

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  18. Homo habilis

    Homo habilis Gold Member Gold Member

    155
    Apr 23, 2015
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    Kind of sad that you need to consider yourself lucky that the blades snap close at all. Although mine don’t get hung up the walk and talk is still not very satisfying.
    I did notice that the pull open from half stop is much firmer than to close. I would say its a 4 to half and a 6 to full open. Probably the tang geometry. Could be a design feature or just the way it happened to be. GEC seems to be a bit hit or miss when it comes to W&T lately.
     
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  19. TheFactor

    TheFactor Life is good ! Platinum Member

    Feb 26, 2015
    @blanco112 I think after time the pull will get snappy . Every one I ever had with some flushing and use really came around to nice walk and talk .
    Just enjoy it and you’ll be pleasantly supprised in the near future :thumbsup:
    Beautiful stag btw !!
     
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  20. nyrico

    nyrico Gold Member Gold Member

    534
    Mar 26, 2012
    Got mine today and I am very happy. Fit and finish is excellent, a soak ind wipe down with mineral oil revealed and very nice walk and talk with a light but not too light pull. This one actually has an edge that is serviceable and a stropping will make it shave hair I think. This is my first, elusive, Freemont Jack. The knife that started my traditional addiction, pictured with its cousin.

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