Liberty Mountain (Olicamp) Matchbox?

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I have found these items carried by a number of vendors at prices from $10.00 to $2.72 each. The decription says they are machined from aluminum. Top with O-ring screws down. Loop on top. No information regarding dimensions, but they are shown full of some type of match.

Anyone had any experience with these?
 
Over the years I've found that anything threaded made out of aluminum just isn't always reliable if used a lot. I always assumed this was because aluminum was soft or because of corrosion. Because a match case lid will be unscrewed frequently, I'd avoid this one.

One of the reasons I like the K & M match case so much is that it does not have threads at all, but instead is locked closed by a twisting motion that shortens a pair of nylon cords. Spend the money once on the best and get a long K & M match case via rlschaffer@gmail.com .

Ken K.
 
I have seem numerous adds/endorsements for the K&M products here and at three other forums. All are positive.

I have considerable exerience with screw tops on aluminum products. Quality varies from POS to excellent. That's why I asked about this product and not the K&M product.
 
Thomas,

I used to work in an aircraft plant, and if I remember correctly, aluminum will corrode more quickly if it is in contact with more aluminum. It is for this reason that sheets of aluminum are stacked with sheets of paper separating them. Different aluminum alloys have varying corrosion resistance, so some work longer than others. The way to avoid it is to use aluminum for the tube, and another metal for the cap.

Again, this is how I remember it, but I could be totally wrong...

Jim
 
Jim, I'm pretty sure that it is the dis-similar metals that corrode faster.Electrolosis. Alum. to Alum. is better, in aircraft anyway.
 
Consider the mil-surp plastic match tubes. Tough plastic with an o-ring. And they work. And they're cheap. You can afford a half dozen to scatter in your get and auto.

Codger
 
I bought one from tadgear.com a few years ago and think it's a quality product. I always keep it my pack filled with REI storm matches and have not had any problems with corrosion. My gear is wet often as I live in western Washington.
 
Jason, TAD does carry them (for $10.00). Do they hold full-sized strik-anywhere matches? (Hope/hope/hope)



I have an aluminum 35mm film container that I have used for tinder for thirty years. I can't imagine it's some premium material, but it has had no corrosion problems despite pocket carry and getting wet many times. The spares have been waiting their chance for all those years - stored in basements. They seem OK too. Just too short for "real" matches.



Now if can just get some others in my area to go for a group buy to spead shipping on the K&M's -- not that he's high. $4.00 is actually low as S&H goes.
 
Thomas,
I have both the olicamp and k&m in hand. I can fit full size strike anywhere matches in both, the k&m has a little room to spare the olicamp does not. The k&m has a rougher surface that makes striking a match easier. My k&m is brass so it weighs a bit more.
 
Thanks for the information.

I want to add a note on SIlva to this thread. The one brass Silva case/compass which I had a chance to handle was too short to hold the strike anywhere matches it was claimed to be designed to use.

I reported that short-coming to Johnson Outdoor, but have been ignored to date.

The Silva is a screw-top product in brass or aluminum.
 
My examples of the Olicamp/Liberty Mountain Aluminum Matchbox have arrived.

The hanger card on the package does not mention Oilcamp. It reads "Liberty Mountain, Salt Lake City, Utah"

The description on the hanger card is: "Rugged - Milled from a solid piece of aluminum for exceptional strength."

The device is made from three pieces of aluminum. The body is machined from 2mm aluminum tube stock. The bottom is pressed on. The screw top is machined from an aluminum slug.

A lanyard ring is provided.

The diameter of the cavity is 13/16" (20 mm).

The depth of the cavity is 2 3/16" (55mm). Current Diamond "strike-anywhere" matches are 2 5/16" (58 mm). (Old Ohio Blue Tips are 2 7/16, or 61.5 mm.) Screwing the cap closed on the Diamond matches crushes the striking tips. A post I recently found at the other forum reports that attempting to close the cap on a full load of strike-anywhere matches forced the bottom off the matchbox.

A less than 1 mm O-ring is provided to seal the cap-body contact. There is no detent, so the O-ring moves up when the cap is removed.

The body and cap seem sturdy enough. The bottom would not be subjected to much stress if full-length matches are not used.

Placing a disk of innertube rubber or equiv. in the cap would produce a good matchsafe for matches smaller than 53mm.

It could also be used for other items/materials one wishes to keep dry. Inferior products are sold at much higher prices.

On examination of the black example, this is the same product sold for up to $10.00 at other vendors. Mine came for less than a third of that from JNKPRODUCTS.COM, which may, in fact, be Liberty Mountain based on the UPS tag.

I have e-mailed Liberty Mountain asking about the depth of the cavity and why the prioduct is claimed to be made of "a solid piece of aluminum."
 
I almost bought 2 of the oilcamp safes from TAG, Glad I didn't. sounds like you guys really checked these out for what they are worth. Thanks for the info.
 
Thomas Linton said:
My examples of the Olicamp/Liberty Mountain Aluminum Matchbox have arrived.

The hanger card on the package does not mention Oilcamp. It reads "Liberty Mountain, Salt Lake City, Utah"

The description on the hanger card is: "Rugged - Milled from a solid piece of aluminum for exceptional strength."

The device is made from three pieces of aluminum. The body is machined from 2mm aluminum tube stock. The bottom is pressed on. The screw top is machined from an aluminum slug.

A lanyard ring is provided.

The diameter of the cavity is 13/16" (20 mm).

The depth of the cavity is 2 3/16" (55mm). Current Diamond "strike-anywhere" matches are 2 5/16" (58 mm). (Old Ohio Blue Tips are 2 7/16, or 61.5 mm.) Screwing the cap closed on the Diamond matches crushes the striking tips. A post I recently found at the other forum reports that attempting to close the cap on a full load of strike-anywhere matches forced the bottom off the matchbox.

A less than 1 mm O-ring is provided to seal the cap-body contact. There is no detent, so the O-ring moves up when the cap is removed.

The body and cap seem sturdy enough. The bottom would not be subjected to much stress if full-length matches are not used.

Placing a disk of innertube rubber or equiv. in the cap would produce a good matchsafe for matches smaller than 53mm.

It could also be used for other items/materials one wishes to keep dry. Inferior products are sold at much higher prices.

On examination of the black example, this is the same product sold for up to $10.00 at other vendors. Mine came for less than a third of that from JNKPRODUCTS.COM, which may, in fact, be Liberty Mountain based on the UPS tag.

I have e-mailed Liberty Mountain asking about the depth of the cavity and why the prioduct is claimed to be made of "a solid piece of aluminum."

Thomas,

I had one of those, and indeed they are three pieces. I left one of my matches a little too long when I filled it and the bottom started to pop off when the cap was screwed on. There appeared to be some sort of adhesive around the rim. I returned it to the local outdoors store where I purchased it.
 
OTHER said:
Milled from a solid piece of aluminum for exceptional strength...made from three pieces of aluminum...body is machined ...aluminum tube stock...bottom is pressed on...top is machined from an aluminum slug.

OTHER said:
have e-mailed Liberty Mountain asking about the depth of the cavity and why the product is claimed to be made of "a solid piece of aluminum."

Interesting to say: "A" solid piece (singular)
Especially if it is made from 3 pieces!
You should also ask them about the "milled from" statement given they use "tube stock"
 
No response yet, but I can add that the internet store, campingrus, has the same address as Liberty Mountain, which has the same address as Olicamp.

Based on a Google search, the product is universally described as "milled from a solid piece of aluminum." It seems likely, therefore, that the description comes from the company having these made in China, be that Olicamp or Liberty Mountain.
 
I have received a response from Liberty Mountain. Their returns manager says they will be "updating the description to reflect the product better."

He also reports, "We have changed who we source this product from."
 
For what it's worth, don't waste your time on any other matchcase except the one from K&M. I'm a matchcase freak who has considered all of them and the K&M is by far the best on the market. The quality and workmanship is outstanding for the price. The design is simple and 100% reliable. And it's made is the USA!

I have two matchcases. One in brass which is heavy, but absolutely gorgeous and one in plain, brushed aluminum (not anodized) which is light, but still very tough. The plain aluminum matchcase had to be special ordered.

My brass matchcase is several years old and has a luminous Brunton compass. My new aluminum matchcase has a beautiful, blue faced, non-luminous Suunto compass. Both are very high quality and accurate.

K&M is now using O.D. military spec cord which is tighter woven than the old cord and doesn't seem to snag as easy on the case knurling.

If you order from their website the price is $19.00 plus $4.05 shipping. If you give Keith a call @ 208-826-3447 and order direct, the price is $15.00 plus $4.05 shipping.

Trust me, you can't go wrong with a K&M Matchcase! :)

http://www.kmmatchcase.com/
 
TAH, I took your advice, had a nice chat with Keith, and ordered a couple of the match cases. They arrived today. Very impressive. They not only look like quality, but three hours under 12" of water resulted in not a drop of leakage. :thumbup:
 
That's good news, Thomas. Glad you like them. Keith and Marge are as good as it gets.

Did you get one brass and one aluminum?
 
Two aluminum - wine and green. Test model is back in the bucket of water - now 16" deep.

Closes easy. Opens easy. Keeps the water out. Great design. Great execution. The spare O-rings and cord are a nice touch.
 
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