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LOOK! Stunning New Case Knives

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Tommy-Chi, Jul 17, 2018.

  1. A.L.


    Jun 27, 2007
    If Case wants to do something more modern, why would they not do gentleman / old style knives mixed with modern? I'm talking about something more subtle than in-your-face flipper. Something that combines modern materials like titanium with classic materials like stag.
  2. JD Bear

    JD Bear Gold Member Basic Member Gold Member

    Aug 4, 2015
    Exactly...put that steel on a stockman and they'd be getting somewhere. They used 154cm on two larger patterns that might not appeal to everyone. I like trappers and the backpocket pattern, but not everybody wants something that big. If they did a whole line with 154cm they may have had better success...
    Tommy-Chi and FortyTwoBlades like this.
  3. HappyDaddy

    HappyDaddy Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 21, 2013
    Brings exactly nothing new or interesting to the party, at an absurd price-point.
    Hickory n steel likes this.
  4. Boozoo Chavis

    Boozoo Chavis

    Oct 18, 2003
    I have no problem with Case branching out into modern folders but I doubt a $200 aluminum handle, generic looking framelock is going to make many waves in the knife world - pretty blah looking knife imho. For comparison sake - I can get an S35V, carbon fiber/titanium liner Spider Monkey made by the same company (Southern Grind) for only $25 more.
    Bull71 likes this.
  5. Dean51

    Dean51 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 30, 2014
    Would you rather see Case fail?
    Case has no choice but to try and expand their market, look at the “Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints” thread 220 pages of cheap Chinese Case Knock offs. Rough Rider is directly targeting Case's market share and doing it at 1/3rd the price. Eighty plus % of Case's market is Candy colored and commemorative pieces and that is what RR is going after. As long as people are willing to buy those cheap RR and Frost knives, Case will continue to loose market share.

    As far as the other American companies that are now history, It's their largely own fault they failed. When the so called modern knives hit the market. They sat on their collective butts and did nothing to meet the new market and when they did their offerings were to little to late. Management, labor and design it all failed to meet the new market.
    Rough Rider has taken a big part of Case's business and they will take more. If Case doesn't find a new niche they will be gone as well.
    A.L., KingMC and 19-3ben like this.
  6. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    I see your point, But a sub $50 Case slipjoint is a far cry from a $200+ modern midtech.
    I'm not sure the average case buyer is in the market for a such a knife, and if they really want to " comform " and produce some modern folders i don't think this would be the place to start.
    I think the best place to start would probably be something sub $50.

    Btw I'm not sure SMKW who owns rough rider and is a huge Case / Zippo dealer really wants to jeopardize that, maybe they do but it doesn't sound likely to me when they know how many are collectors of the Case / Zippo names.
  7. Dean51

    Dean51 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 30, 2014
    I don't where they should start just that they need to, ASAP.
    I did not know SMKW owned RR. Wouldn't they make more in the long run selling their brand.
  8. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    People know the Case name, and I personally don't know of anyone who's familiar with the case name that prefers RR.
    I'm not sure If they sell more RR or Case, but I think Zippo alone would be good cause to keep their relationship with Case / Zippo in good standing.
  9. marcinek


    Jan 9, 2007
    Of course it is the place to start. Those of us who have been around a while have never seen anything like the "framelock flipper" craze. Manufacturers cant make them fast enough. People have fits over LEs with different colored screws. Flippers are making money hand over fist.

    Everybody is in the market for such a knife.

    Case would be stupid to not try to tap into it.

    Did they wait too long? Yes. Am I sick to death of framelock flippers? Yes.

    But to think there is not money in making them is not understanding what is happening in the industry now and not being able to put it into context.

    They are hotter than survival knives after Rambo came out.
    James Y, 91bravo and Tommy-Chi like this.
  10. skyhorse


    Jan 30, 2010
    I'd much rather buy a ZT in that price range. I'll keep buying their traditional knives myself.:)
    BilboBaggins and BigKurtHaze like this.
  11. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    This seems to be an emerging trend and I hope Case (and everyone else, to be honest) jumps on it. I love the cutting performance and aesthetics that traditionals bring to the table, but I am firmly committed to pocket clips. I can do without one handed opening, though I'd prefer to have it, but clipless knives find their way out of my pocket too often and, with the amount of crap I carry they're just too inconvenient.
    FortyTwoBlades likes this.
  12. snapshot2017


    Jan 28, 2017
    When i was working in the knife Dept. at a local sporting goods store over the Christmas a while back, we had a large display of Case Knives they were in high demand and quickly sold out.
    I have a older XX Case i bought in 1973, wish i could post it's picture but not able to do it simple as in other forums.
    NCCNC likes this.
  13. gotgoat

    gotgoat Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 2, 2016
    just way too much money or I'd want to try one
  14. BMCGear

    BMCGear Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    Case has an opportunity to come out with a modern interpretation of many of the classics they make and this is what they do? I'd be more excited if they switched stainless steels and the fit and finish was better.
  15. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    Its too little too late and it is inconsistent with their traditional market. The Case name on the OP knife adds about as much to this as the Smith and Wesson name on whatever Chinese junk it is attached to at the local flea market. If they want to do a $200-300 production knife then at least do it using polished bolsters, traditional scales, a case shield plate and quality materials and finish. Make something that is consistent with their classic aesthetics.

    FortyTwoBlades likes this.
  16. BMCGear

    BMCGear Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2014
    I agree. Make a more modern interpretation of the classics rather than throwing a spring in them and a fugly clip. The Crooked River is a great example of a modern classic.
    Tommy-Chi likes this.
  17. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    I'll summarize the 5 key points of this thread about the CG01:
    1. Underwhelming
    2. Overpriced
    3. Too Little, Too Late
    4. Poor Value
    5. Misses the Mark

    Oh, and the flipping action in the Knifecenter video is UGLY!

    The real question will be whether this unfortunate collaboration can bring both companies down.

    Case should have gone after traditional handle materials and designs combined with popular elements of modern knives; a clip, one handed opening (think of the old Mnandi nail nick) and upgraded blade steel. The LionSteel Roundheads and Shufflers are awesome! This is where Case/Southern Grind should have gone.
    FortyTwoBlades likes this.
  18. Reitwagen


    Mar 2, 2009
    Another flipper, don't we have enough of those already? I would like something like a Copperlock with a steel upgrade and a pull that could be used as a thumb purchase for one-hand opening.
    On the other hand, I'm chuffed that Case is trying something new. They don't come out with new models more than every ten years or so.
  19. lonestag


    Nov 13, 2011
    I was thinking of the trapperlock while reading this thread. I've had one and while not a bad knife really, it seemed like a half way attempt at modernising a classic. Doesn't Case make some slipjoints with carbon fiber scales? How about a 6165 pattern with a titanium frame lock and stag , marbled carbon fiber ,or jiggged walnut? With a s30v thumb stud blade as well. Now that would get my attention!
  20. BellaBlades

    BellaBlades Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 12, 2013
    They look like $60 Kershaw designs. Nothing against Kershaw. Case should stick with Case.

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