Looking to buy a decent katana

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My brother want's a katana for christmas. I am wondering if there are decent ones available for around 100$ and where to find them. It doesnt need to be antique or fancy, but if it is I of course don't mind.

Anyone know where to look? reputable brands/vendors? I see on ebay one vendor called Razor sharp katana that has alot of stuff. Anyone heard of them?

THanks
 
You will have great difficulty finding a katana for $100 that is not in the class of a "wall-hanger." That is, one that should be viewed only but never, ever swung. The centrifugal force created by that swing causes many of those cheap mall-ninja swords to break at the inadequate excuse for a tang.

Honestly. a decent $100 katana is like a decent $75 pistol or a decent $400 car.

That said, I'm intrigued and will help you look!! ;)

Hmmm... there may be more than I thought. I'm learning while you do! ;)

Here's a place to start for some background.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana



http://www.japaneseswords4samurai.com/authentic-samurai-swords.htm

https://www.kriscutlery.com/documents/japanese.html

The Paul Chen Practical katanas seem to be the one often recommended for an entry level.
http://www.animecastle.com/showproduct.aspx?productid=107865&affiliateid=10050
 
I would love for some of the more frequent visitors to this subforum to comment on the site above.


The reviews sound good but I am a bit new to this arena of BFC.

Thanks!
 
So, that site looks good. Anyone know how reliable the reviews are? From what it says, I have pretty much narrowed it down to the Kaze Katana
http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/kaze-katana-review.html
or the Tenchi Katana
http://www.sword-buyers-guide.com/tenchi.html
Both from Cheness. Is this a good company?
I am leaning to the Tenchi Katana, as its durability appeals to me. Does anyone have this? know reliable vendors? He offers it for 249 on the site, but I am wary of buying from sites I've never heard of. Anyone bought from there?
 
Been on the sites and read over a dozen reviews from there but I never bought from them. Cheness makes great products for the $$$. You can also purchase from Cheness directly if you feel leary.
 
I would love for some of the more frequent visitors to this subforum to comment on the site above.


The reviews sound good but I am a bit new to this arena of BFC.

Thanks!

It's not terrible, relatively objective (despite him selling some the items), but it limits itself to swords/etc under 300 or 400 dollars if I recall correctly (may have changed).

Anyway, look at Kris Cutlery, Oni Forge, and the new Paul Chen practical series (don't just go with Cheness). Research first :D.
 
Looks like SBG is a decent resource. Unlike a lot of internet sites, they actually acknowledge that most internet swords are crap, and seem to know what they are talking about as far as finding a good one. And they posted reviews, always a plus.
 
https://www.kriscutlery.com/products.html
for comparable prices, how does the Tenchi or Kaze cheness compare to this one?'
the kris one uses 5160 steel, the tenchi is 9260
Cheness doesn't have the same track record, but from the few blades from both companies I've handled, decently shaped (obviously has several imperfections at this price) and quite tough.
The issue is the handle... depending on the Q.C. - it could be adequate... or an accident waiting to happen.
Never heard of any problems with a KC handle recently (though there certainly were some in the '90s). I cannot comment on their recent products, since I have not really handled them myself, nor heard much about them from reputable sources.

On a side note, I rather liked one of their older models, the KC Shingen.
 
Ive had a cheness shura for about a year ( same blade as the tenchi)
Well worth the money IMO.
Ive cut tons of stuff with it, and it has taken it all in stride.

The fit and finish leave some to be desired, and the blade is quite a bit thicker then the similarly priced PC products.

I would choose the tenchi over the kaze ( or the shura if it is still available, cause the big brass tsuba isnt the greatest in my eyes) for a first sword, solely for the durability factor. You are much less likely to bend the tenchi.

I am so confident in mine, I dont even blink when letting other non blade people cut with it. (other than basic safety I guess)

Dont forget that they have changed one of the mekugi pins to copper, and this might make it hard to disassemble the sword after some time.

I ordered the sword through Paul southern of Sword buyers guide, I would vouch for his reputability.
 
I just realized the link I posted last night didn't lead to the correct page, so the katana from Kris is the Katana 29 II

How does this compare to the Tenchi?

THanks so far, I have narrowed it down alot and learned a huge amound about Katanas in the process
 
If it were me I would go with the Kris Cutlery Katana made from 5160 steel. There older ones were not 5160 so if you check out their website make sure you are looking at the 5160 steel models.

Others may disagree but I would spend the little extra money and go for one of those. The only other possibility to me would be the Chen Practical series as others have also mentioned.

If you were lucky and had a little more money then I would say look for a Rob Criswell katana!!!!
 
Been on the sites and read over a dozen reviews from there but I never bought from them. Cheness makes great products for the $$$. You can also purchase from Cheness directly if you feel leary.

I have the Tenchi under my Christmas tree, gift from my wife, ordered thru SBG, good price $249, fast delivery. The actual Cheness website has youtube vids of the owner of SBG, testing out different backyard cutters. They seem very reputable and are often recommended on Sword Forum International, by more knowledgable sword guys than myself. I'd order from them confidently.
 
I didn't mean to let this thread die, I have been abroad. So far I have a vote for each, but no consensus. Is it really a toss-up? if so, I may go with the cheness b/c of the impressive destruction test.
 
I didn't mean to let this thread die, I have been abroad. So far I have a vote for each, but no consensus. Is it really a toss-up? if so, I may go with the cheness b/c of the impressive destruction test.
A lot of experienced people I know think that Kris Cutlery is usually well-worth the money, though due to the level of polish (IIRC) their 5160 does not show a temper line as readily as simple carbon steels (1075, etc). Do consider joining Swordforum.com or Netsword.com (the latter is probably more European-style though).

From what I hear recently about Cheness, they seem to have beefed up their Q.C. Check out their "Cheness Forge" video.
I admire how P. Chen is trying to make a dependable, adequate sword at a relatively low price, and am confident in his testing methods - also, from all accounts, his customer service is excellent.
I have handled a number of Cheness blades, and have seen destruction tests by people I am acquainted with and trust (and am suitably impressed).

The only issue, as it is always, is how the lower-priced swords cut corners. In the video I mentioned, they showed how the handle wrap was tied (not well - hopefully this has been resolved) and also how the handles were put onto the tang (hammered on, then pegged). I am still not sure how representative this is of the approx. sub-US$500 Japanese-styled sword market. Thus, it is entirely possible that many manufacturers may be guilty of similar practices.

To add even more to the mix, consider Furuyama Swords
 
My concern is with the steels, how does 1090 and 1060 compare with the spring steels used by kris and cheness?

Is this an issue with swords? my impression was that the spring steels would be better for a katana
 
My concern is with the steels, how does 1090 and 1060 compare with the spring steels used by kris and cheness?

Is this an issue with swords? my impression was that the spring steels would be better for a katana
Steel doesn't matter too much unless the heat treat is appropriate. Spring tool steels (9160 and 5160) work very well when heat treated appropriate, but tend to have a less than "flamboyant"/obvious temper line than the simple tool steels such as 1060 and 1090, (it takes a certain angle/point-of-view and light to see them anyway, since the polish tends to be uneven and of generally poor quality).

Regarding steels - VERY GENERALLY and SIMPLISTICALLY, the higher the carbon, the better the edge-holding, but the more brittle, especially when batch or production line heat-treated. Typically, 1090 has a bit too much carbon to maintain toughness, while 1050 and 1060 tend to not hold an edge as well. 1070 or 1075 seem to be very common among custom makers.
 
I wonder why you can get a decent, and large, machette for $20-50 but not a sword. What am I missing here?

There is a huge difference between a machete and a sword.

Typical good machete: stamped out of a piece of sheet metal, little or no heat treat, no blade geometry to speak of and nothing remotely resembling dynamic handling properties. Also there's no complex hilt furniture or construction and that's before we get into the aesthetic qualities needed to make a good sword.

Typical good sword: At a minimum created through stock removal either by and or on a CNC mill, undergoes a delicate heat treatment, has a very definate blade geometry defined by sword type. Then complex hilt components are either forged or cast and a grip is constructed to fit the tang of the sword. The entire assembly is then usually hot or cold peened together. Then of course there are aesthetic considerations.

There is VASTLY more work that goes into a good sword than a good machete.
 
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