Lord of the Rings Swords Are Crap

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Stainless Steal, rat-tail tangs, Made in Spain, crap, crap, crap. Is eerything made in Spain just garbage? How can commercial slop of this level represent the highly crafted battle-weapons of the immortal Tolkein novels. They're the worst kind of trash. They're an insult to the spirit of the blade. Don't buy them. Buy a real sword. Carbon steal, full-tang, real blades made by blacksmiths. Swords made in the Phillipines are worthy and don't over cost. (CAS Iberia). Can you imagine a sword that you have to worry about the handle coming loose after two cuts? TRASH!!!!
 
I thought that they were decorative-People use swords nowdays? (M.S. Wally Hayes & Co. notwithstanding)-Joe
 
relax, yo. those swords are strictly decorative. you don't actually think people use the LotR swords for slaying Orcs and killing magical creatures, do you?

'cause if you do, you'd probably be pissed off to know that the Star Wars Light Sabers sold on Ebay don't actually cauterize wounds as you slice thru folks.:p

abe m.
 
Originally posted by Uath
Stainless Steal, rat-tail tangs, Made in Spain, crap, crap, crap. Is eerything made in Spain just garbage? How can commercial slop of this level represent the highly crafted battle-weapons of the immortal Tolkein novels. They're the worst kind of trash. They're an insult to the spirit of the blade. Don't buy them. Buy a real sword. Carbon steal, full-tang, real blades made by blacksmiths. Swords made in the Phillipines are worthy and don't over cost. (CAS Iberia). Can you imagine a sword that you have to worry about the handle coming loose after two cuts? TRASH!!!!

For Pete's sake, they're wall hangers! Did you seriously think they were made for actual use? :rolleyes:

By the way, if you're referring to the LOTR repros by United Cutlery, they're not made in Spain.
 
I'll throw in my .02 here. Those knives are for people that only want to admire the beauty of the swords used in the movie. I think Tolken would have been proud of the way the swords were designed. Not every fan of the lord of the rings just happens to have $50,000 dollars laying around so they can have a full set of combat-ready fantasy swords just like from the movies, which is what it would probably cost. Some REAL combat-ready Conan swords are being sold on eBay right now for around $3000 bucks. C'mon dude, let the people have their wall hangers. Much cooler than posters any day.
 
If you want a sword you can beat the crap out get one from Kris Cutlery....tougher than nails.They have a nice Celtic leaf sword that any hobbit would be proud to own,good prices as well.:D
 
Why would anyone have a sword that wasn't a real weapon. Man, the prices!!! I've got an Eastern Barbarian sword (the companion to the Conan blade, it was carried by the oriental guy in the first Conan movie). It's a full tang 2-handed scimitar. I use it as a machete. It's the best one I've ever had. I hope it's not worth $3000!
 
Man...uath...how come you keep coming up with threads like these?

I just want to ask one question...have you handled the LOTR swords before?

They're marketed for collectors. Some of them might not want a real blade to show off in their living room. If you really want a real sword get it custom made to LOTR specs. I wanna see whether you're willing to pay for it.

Nobody uses swords in normal circumstances nowadays anyway...most of them use it in martial arts or just to collect.
 
Don’t be so cynical.

I think to see Frodo toting around a Battle Mistress would have taken away from the magic of the story somehow.

The film was expensive enough to portray without having to travel to middle Earth and pay some elf to forge you a blade for a couple scenes.

Just enjoy the movies.
 
BTW, any knife dealer will tell you that crap knives outsell Spyderco, BMs, Reeves any day of the week. People don't want quality they want cheap. Just smile and consider yourself part of us "enlightened"
 
You use a 2 handed scimitar?

I wanna see that outcut and outfight an HI Kukhuri...

You'll look a wanker carrying a sword camping...and no one uses a sword as a weapon nowadays...where do you live dude??? in the amazon???

MUAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA....you are one crazy guy....it's like you're stuck in another dimension....

before you draw that sword the other guy probably has put 3 bullets in your chest...just imagine aragorn fighting rambo...my guess is rambo with the M60 will win...

Even the dark lord sauron can't compete with the latest high tech weapons of mass destruction...
 
Originally posted by Point44
Even the dark lord sauron can't compete with the latest high tech weapons of mass destruction...
Uh, I thought Sauron was immaterial..... :confused:
 
Originally posted by Uath
Why would anyone have a sword that wasn't a real weapon.

:rolleyes:

Yeah, have you even handled the LOTR swords?

I'm not sure how things are in Waycross, Georgia these days, but you don't see many people walking around town with combat-ready swords at their sides in the 21st century. Again, the Lord Of The Rings replica swords by United Cutlery are collector items made for the fans. Even the ones available from www.noblecollection.com which ARE made in Toledo, Spain are wall hangers too. Believe it or not, many people actually take pleasure in owning and displaying them in their homes.
 
I've seen them, they're fine for what they are, decorations, and nothing more. Why would anyone want a sword that won't cut? Just think of them as 3-D paintings to hang on the wall. They are actually very well finished and balance well. I could cut one into pieces with any of my khukuris, but that's OK. I prefer the khuks as weapons anyway.
 
A real sword is a joy forever. I live in the deep woods and yes, I strap one on everyday and walk around. The power, the glory. I can't imagine moving to town. People would think I was crazy. When I lived in Seattle, there was this guy that walked all over downtown with a broad sword strapped to his back. No one messed with him. I admired him greatly. More people should do that. Maybe we should all carry swords.
 
posted bu Uath:

I live in the deep woods and yes, I strap one on everyday and walk around. The power, the glory. I can't imagine moving to town. People would think I was crazy.

Umm, people DO think you're crazy.
 
Originally posted by Uath
I live in the deep woods and yes, I strap one on everyday and walk around. The power, the glory. People would think I was crazy.

Yeah, that statement says it all. Hmm...I wonder if there are any institutions for the mentally divergent in your part of Georgia, but if you say that you strap on a sword everyday and walk around, well...Okay then. Don't forget to take your bunny slippers with you. It gets kinda cold at night.
 
Firstly, there is a sword discussion forum on BFC if you are interested in discussing swords and their intended uses more in-depth.

Next...try to understand where the swords are coming from. If you look at the sword market, you can readily break it into 3 categories:

Decorative: These swords are made to sit on a display stand, hang on a wall, or accompany a costume. As a whole, they are not designed for any kind of use, and as a result certain cost-saving production shortcuts can be made in regards to construction and materials. Face it, the vast majority of people who think "swords are cool" have no intention of really using their sword for anything serious. They're happy that they have a shiny piece of metal that could be sharp that looks like the one that character X used in the movie. Sometimes these are very poor workmanship as well, but the fact that they're long and made of steel (usually) seems to somehow nullify that for lots of people, and some even like to give the excuse "it shows you that it's handmade" to justify downright poor fit/finish. This is where a lot of the "sword-like objects" and "wallhangers" come from. this represents the vast majority of all swords currently sold.

Use-oriented: These swords encompass a growing amount of production pieces as well as many custom swords. From Hanwei and Del Tin up to Howard Clark and Louis Mills, these are swords that are intended to be used. Most are not designed for abusive treatment, though some are capable of handling abuse. These tend to be geared for the martial artists and some of the more snobby decorative sword buffs. Sometimes finish and such will be lacking, but on the average, swords from this category can easily replace the swords from the first category aesthetically. The downside is that the "usable" factor tends to involve a greater attention to detail with such things as heat treatment, geometry, and mounting designs...and thus typically necessitates a higher cost for the same level of "decoration." Some makers such as John Lundemo have done usable renditions of various fantasy swords (the Albion Armorers Atlantean, etc swords also fit in this category), but the cost is usually prohibitively high compared to those swords in the "decorative" category.

Abuse-oriented: This category does not really encompass very many swords, typically some modern-designed swords that are intended to double as machetes, and various swords from cultures that implemented swords as weapon AND tool. Those swords which are designed for very heavy amounts of use and abuse typically can omit many of the aesthetic pleasantries of the swords in former categories, which can save money to a degree. You will likely find Himalayan Imports blades to fit in this category, where the cost is not excessive but the durability is very high (I do not personally believe durability is the most important aspect of performance, but some people do, and this is a big benefit for them!). You will not often find novelty (movies, video games, other fantasy, etc) swords in this category.

Every now and again you'll find that some swords are blurred between categories, but in general I think these three categories summarize the sword market as a whole. Each category appeals to its audiences, and the decorative category likely is more popular than the latter two combined. I think it's important to remember that on the whole, the sword is an obsolete weapon, and most styles of sword were not designed to double as machetes. Just because you might find a katana that's designed for "use" doesn't mean it's meant to be taken out into the backyard and used to hack brush and trees. If it was, I think the Japanese smiths back in the day would have reconsidered their design philosophies a bit.

You really need to know what YOU want and let others make that decision for themselves. Not everyone wants to whack a tree or cut tatami-omote with their brand new sword, and they should be free to pick the products that suit their intended use the best.
 
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