Lugged Steel Bike Frame Makers?

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Last time I looked (granted that was 10 years ago) there was a decent amount of frame makers that built semi-production lugged steel frames for somewhat "reasonable" prices. Looks like alot of them dried up and others have seriously bumped up there prices (which is understandable do to inflation, economy, brand value, etc.). So now I can only find two survivors in what I would call the "reasonable" sub-$1000 category: Velo-Orange and Soma. Anyone know of any others? Thanks.
 
Unfortunatley not many in that range. Are you looking for new exclusively? High end vintage road and track bikes is my specialty as a mechanic and I could give you some ideas of what to look for in used that can be upgraded for around your price range. I sold my '91 Colnago Master Xtra Lite frame, fork, headset, seatpost, and stem for $1350 last year, and I have seen just frames going for about $800-$1000. Occasionally a De Rosa comes up at a decent price. I believe Jamis made one a few years back with Renolds 853 tubing, they might still have it in their line up.

What type of riding are you looking to do mostly? Club rides, touring, centuries, weekend warrior? '80s Paramounts go cheap these days and are decent bikes. Being in Long Island you may want to check out the fixed gear crowd, many of them ride converted road frames of decent quality.

Let me know if I can help you find a frame.


-Xander
 
I have a vintage Colnago and a custom Surly. AVOID Soma... I ride track/Fixie and it's not cheap to buy steeds. It comes down to luck with Craigslist to get a decent deal. I wish I could help.
 
Yeah I have to second that, avoid SOMA. Over priced and flexy frames. Actually a very good bike would be a miyata 1000 from the late 80's. They use Tange tubing and are reasonably light. You can pick up a good one for $500 usually and a shimano Ultegra 10sp group for the other $500. I have built many like that.


-Xander
 
I just checked Jamis' site and they still offer steel frame sets. They're not lugged and have more modern geometry, but are good bikes with Renolds tubing. Its called the Eclipse. Lugged frames dont lend themselves to automated manufacturing well which is why the price is usually higher. Go down to your local shop and have them call someof their reps for the high end brands and have them ask if they have any old models still sitting around. They will sell these at a discount often times and some good deals to be had. I picked up an Orbea with full Campy group that was 2 model years old for about 40% off this way. Just stay away from new Windsor, Botteccia, and any other name brand that went defunct a while go, they are now being made in Mexico of marginal quality.


-Xander
 
Giovanni Pelizzoli, a real living legend (he founded Ciöcc in 1969) is still building frames. http://www.pelizzoliworld.com/
His price for an 'off the rack' model is right at $1k, express shipping from Italy included. I know that for sure because I bought one earlier this year. :D

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If you can live with fillet brazed instead of lugs, Antonio Taverna will build you a steel frame for 430-750 Euro depending on your choice of tubing. http://www.vetta.it/
 
Nice rig! That classic campy gruppo is some serious bike porn! I may have to check them out, I sure would like a new track bike since I sold my Paramount this year. My Miyata Pista was stolen last year and I got it back (no thanks to the police...) rather beat up. My other Paramount has a crushed top tube from some *#&$ ham fisted "mechanic" when I was on a ride out of town. Oh well, he won't work on bikes at that shop again.


-Xander
 
Nice rig! That classic campy gruppo is some serious bike porn! I may have to check them out, I sure would like a new track bike since I sold my Paramount this year. My Miyata Pista was stolen last year and I got it back (no thanks to the police...) rather beat up. My other Paramount has a crushed top tube from some *#&$ ham fisted "mechanic" when I was on a ride out of town. Oh well, he won't work on bikes at that shop again.


-Xander
Thanks. Outside of the Deltas (which are Croce d'Aune) the bike is built with Record 8 speed, you can see it at the bottom of the page here. You should definitely check out his track frames, they look pretty nice and have a gorgeous biplane fork crown. They used to list the prices on the page but they aren't there now; just send an email and you'll get a reply within a day or two from Alessandro. They are pretty flexible as to options as well - I wanted a pump peg on the headtube and not only did they add one they did so at no charge. Sorry to hear about the Paramount...a crushed TT...I'd have been hopping mad...
 
Look here.

http://www.rivbike.com/

Rivendell is run by Grant Petersen, one of the few people in the bike industry who sees the big picture and knows what works v. hype.

I have an A. Homer Hilsen on order--designed by Petersen and made by Waterford (Richard Schwinn). They make a model called the Sam Hilborne that's a little more plain for $1050 (if made in Taiwan) or $1500 (if made in U.S. by Waterford). Also check the new Soma San Marcos ($900), also designed by Petersen:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/soma-san-marcos/70-999

Another option is to look for vintage on you local craigslist. Lots of good stuff still out there--much cheaper than new.

Here's a recent Craigslist buy for $200. Top quality Japanese workmanship--cleanest brazing I've ever seen, and I've seen 1000s of lugged frames, and classic Italian stage race geometry:

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Look how the edge of the lug meets the headtube at a right angle--no overfill, no underfill:

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Someone gave this one to me (seriously) but stuff like this generally goes for well under a grand on craigslist:

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Examples: our local Craiglist recently had a De Rosa and a Bob Jackson touring--complete bikes--that were both priced under $1000.

Also, I agree that you need to carefully consider what kind of riding you plan to do. A purebred racing bike is great for, well, racing, and riding fast. There are more comfortable, practical, and versitile bikes out there than racing bikes. I rode racing bikes for years--decades really--but I've slowed down in recent years and like a more upright position, choice of wider tires, but still with drop bars, hence the Riv.
 
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