Manix 2 in Maxamet !

If the lockbar pivot is too tight that can make a knife stiff. Check that and the blade pivot a make sure neither is overtightened.
 
I want one of these but if there is any chance that we could see Maxamet in a Military I would wait.

This is a regular production knife? Correct?
 
Much of the difference there will be the blade geometry, not all of it would be in the heat treat. if the phil wilson is half the thickness behind the edge, its going to cut much longer before it appears to dull (or dulls to the same perceivable level) as a blade that's twice the thickness behind the edge.

your other data in relation to the 110v only shows that a harder blade stays sharp for longer than a lower RC when the thickness is similar (to be expected), but better geometry (even with the lower RC) blade trumps both. again to be expected.
so unless we know the thickness behind the edge of the cru wear military vs phil wilson cru wear then it means nothing, and its all in the geo.

When you get into the steels like maxamet etc its all going to be heat treated via computer/ temperature controlled furnaces & professional equipment. There is no guy dipping the maxamet blade into oil or watching for its change in colour before quenching. I would be willing to bet the heat treatment is done by companies who specialise in heat treatments and perform heat treatments on all kinds of steels for the tool making & industrial manufacturing applications. They will have furnaces where they set the temp scale / ramp & time in a computer and walk away. (for example we have a company down here called heat treatments who have a massive premises with dozens of high tech computer controlled vacuum furnaces, precisely controlled cryo chambers and everything in between.)

I guess what I’m getting at, is unless something went very wrong along the process somewhere, the heat treating will be done by a company who is more than capable of heat treating it however anyone wants its heat treated. The steel has heat treat info & specs developed by, and provided by the company who invented it, which can be precisely followed by any heat treatment company worth their salt to get the desired outcome.

granted there will be an "ideal" and it may take some R&D to find the ideal mix of hardness/toughness for knife blades, but once it was known it could be duplicated by any good company with the right equipment.

agreed
 
Spyderco has said that their heat treatment is done in house. They also develop and tweak the heat treat themselves. Sure, the foundry gives them a heat treat protocol to start with but they take it from there and do their own thing. That is the impression I have gotten. I believe that post above contains some incorrect assumptions. I also think it is incorrect to say that target hardness is a 5 point range. That is just silly. They target a much smaller range than that. Sure, there can be a variation of a point in either direction from target hardness but they are shooting for as much consistancy as possible.

I agree with the comments about geometry but as far as the rest goes I ain't buying it.
 
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Spyderco has said that their heat treatment is done in house. They also develop and tweak the heat treat themselves. Sure, the foundry gives them a heat treat protocol to start with but they take it from there and do their own thing. That is the impression I have gotten. I believe that post above contains some incorrect assumptions. I also think it is incorrect to say that target hardness is a 5 point range. That is just silly. They target a much smaller range than that. Sure, there can be a variation of a point in either direction from target hardness but they are shooting for as much consistancy as possible.

I agree with the comments about geometry but as far as the rest goes I ain't buying it.
if they do bulk heat treat, its hard to get every blade heat treated exactly the same.

i do recall on spyderco forums Sal got input from Phil Wilson on the heat treatment procedure. not sure the specifics of what they followed specifically or changed.
 
yeah, of course there is variation in heat treat from batch to batch. There is even variation within a batch. That is common knowledge amongst knife nuts. However, saying that Spyderco has a tolerance range of 4 or 5 points is something I don't believe. Plus or minus one point may be closer to what they are accomplishing in my opinion.
 
Well, It does not look like these will make October either. :(
Hopefully they will ship in November! :thumbup::D
 
Well, It does not look like these will make October either. :(
Hopefully they will ship in November! :thumbup::D

The steel is probably going through their machines like crazy!

At least, that's would I would assume from a steel like Maxamet.
 
The steel is probably going through their machines like crazy!

At least, that's would I would assume from a steel like Maxamet.

probably. I just want to know if ill get one before x-mas or not. otherwise spyderco can take there time and finish it whenever.
 
Haha yeah, at the end of the day the gray is fine with me.

I love that they keep switching up the colors.
 
Are these production knives or sprint runs? Another question - the Maxamet Manix 2 will be only LW or there will be a regular G10 model?
 
I believe it is a production piece but I also believe that both sales and user feedback will determine if we see any other models. Sales may even determine if this is full production or limited production. I am gonna pick one up myself but so far I am unsure if there will be the same fever for this that there was for s110V. Only time (and Sal) can tell....
 
Are these production knives or sprint runs? Another question - the Maxamet Manix 2 will be only LW or there will be a regular G10 model?

Edit: BHQ was using a weird pic for their Manix LW. Disregard what I said before.
 
I'm definitely picking one up and get excited everytime I see this thread has a new post, hoping someone has had their order sent.

I would probably get 2 or 3 if they were a bit cheaper and closer to the S110V version. I would get a mule but I just don't use fixed blades much and the one I do have has sat untouched since it arrived which has been years now.

I also want to get any future models with this steel. I hope they go with a nice color if they stick with a color for all knives that use it. I will be completely content with a gray or charcoal color so it's off to a good start.

I really like the high carbide content stainless steels so far. They get sharp easily for me and usually a little time on a strop with 1 micron diamond spray will take it from not shaving except maybe a couple hairs with a scraping action, to a hair whittling edge that will let you pick a hair and cut it well above the skin and tree top like a champ. And they usually have a nice aggressive edge for a long time even if they do get below shaving sharp though I usually try to strop once it is no longer shaving sharp. With it's high hardness and the numbers Ankerson got in his test procedure, I'm really excited about this steel and have been waiting for many years for something similar and hope it lives up to my hopes.

I think I just talked myself into a mule...at least I'll have an idea of how many back ups to buy once these drop. >:°)
 
I just got my notification that mine is shipping today!
Woo- Hoo :thumbup::thumbup::)
 
Finally! I'm curious how this performs versus the S110V version in particular...I sold my 110v recently and bought one of the sprints in CTS XHP, I'm planning on getting another in the super wear resistant steels eventually, the field results will help decide if it will be grey or dark blue.
 
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