Maxpedition Falcon-II - Long and Pic Heavy!

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Fonly’s recent review of his Maxpedition Lunada inspired me to do a review of my new Maxpedition Falcon-II. Specs for this pack can be found here. I purchased this pack after deciding I wanted a durable daypack for hiking that could double as a BOB. I went with the Falcon-II instead of the Pygmy Falcon for several reasons including: I am a recent convert to hydration packs for hiking, I love daypacks with separate compartments, and I wanted the little bit of extra cargo space in the Falcon-II. The separate compartment thing was key for me, since I don’t like repacking/reorganizing my hiking pack for every hike. I want to be able to leave lesser used items like my FAK and cordage in a one compartment, and use another compartment for items that are changed every hike or used often on hikes (food, items for different activities, etc).

I only received this pack a week or two ago and have yet to take it out on a hike. Therefore, this review will be broken into two parts:
1) Initial thoughts and pics of interior
2) After-hike impressions and pics of it in use. (Post with Part 2 is here)

Alright, let’s begin with Part 1!



This is the khaki pack as depicted on the Maxpedition website:

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Maxpedition is moving to matching zippers and buckles on all of their products, so this is what I actually received (next to 10x4 bottle holder and M2 for size reference):

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The fabric is robust as with all other Maxpedition products and has a solid feel to it. Although I don’t think rigidity necessarily equates toughness, I’m pretty confident this pack will hold up to whatever I could throw at it. The shoulder straps are nicely padded and should function very well. The shoulder straps have one compression strap each that allow the user to adjust the fit of the pack. It feels quite comfortable so far, we’ll see how it feels on a hike. The pack also has a great sternum strap. The waist belt doesn’t seem to be very effective, as it’s positioned pretty high up on my torso; I will take pictures of it in part two. The good news is that the waist belt can be removed completely.


This should give you an idea of the slimness of the empty pack. I don’t have it cinched down all the way in this picture, but basically the pack condenses such that the front two pockets collapse into the secondary large compartment, and all three collapse into the main compartment.

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This is the bottom with the pack nearly completely cinched. There are 7 compression straps in all: 4 on the sides, two on the bottom that can be used to hold gear below the pack, and one Y strap that can be used for further horizontal compression. The Y strap can be removed completely if you get annoyed with it. The black you see on the bottom is a synthetic abrasion resistant material.

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The zippers are YKK and sturdy, and all seams are double stitched. I replaced the stock khaki paracord zipper pulls with black paracord ones to make finding the zippers quicker and easier.

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This is the pack in its current set-up. I have attached a mini-rollypoly that contains a guyot and an M-2 via Tac Ties. The M2 is there for small items or snacks to which I want quick access. I wanted to carry a guyot because although I love hydration packs, I often find myself needing to pour water (e.g. washing hands, rinsing a cut, rinsing food), especially if hiking with my lady. I have also attached 2 carabiners for miscellaneous gear, a RAT Izula, and a County Comm Spotlit LED blinker.

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The bladder is a 100oz Camelbak bladder. The drinking tube exit hole opens up both in the bladder pocket and the main compartment and is secured with velcro. I don’t really like the bladder-hanging strap as it’s too wide to use easily with the Camelbak bladder hook. Sometimes the bladder manages to slip off the hook as well. However, the problem is easily remedied by tying a small loop of paracord onto the existing hanging strap; then it'd be just like a normal camelbak hanging look (I just haven’t done it yet). The velcro closure is a bit awkward, and I think a simple elastic hole like that found in camelbaks would have been better. It’s not a big deal though. There are also two drain holes at the bottom of the bladder pocket for leakage or condensation. The insulating material used on the bladder pocket flap seems to be rather absorbent though, not like the non-absorbent material used in camelback bladder pockets. I also thought it a little odd that the same insulating material wasn't used on both sides of the bladder pocket. I'll see how it handles a full bladder of cold water over the course of a hike and post pics with part 2.

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Here is the pack with a tape measure:

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The main compartment can be opened completely thanks to a ¾ zipper. There are two mesh pockets on each side of the compartment, one with a zipper in which I keep quarters and other small items.

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A full bladder bulges into the main compartment slightly, allowing the pack to remain flat on your back but restricting storage space in that compartment. In the main compartment I currently have a heavy duty space blanket, waterproof map bag with a simple base plate compass and map, a couple of cliff bars, and a couple of empty heavy duty Ziploc bags. There is more than enough room for the typical day hike add-ons (e.g. food, my lady’s stuff, a towel and extra clothes and reef-walkers if it’s a beach hike, extra cutlery to play with). I’m sure this pack would work for a minimal overnighter in my temperate climate, especially with the MOLLE expandability and the option to strap stuff to the bottom of the pack.


In the second large compartment (smaller than main compartment) I have items that aren’t used on a regular basis but are nonetheless important to have. I have my full FAK that includes one small baggie with stuff for small cuts and poison oak (Band-Aids, 2% iodine tincture, Neosporin, poison oak wipes, Ibuprofen, Loperamide) and two small baggies for more serious injuries (quikclot, Israeli trauma bandage, sterile gauze, butterfly closures, sutures, duct tape, waterproof medical tape, heavy duty safety pins, Ace wrap, Moleskin). At the bottom of the compartment I have 100ft of Paracord and 50ft of regular nylon rope (might only keep the paracord in there). There is one decent sized integrated pocket in the compartment with two smaller mesh pockets built in, I put two cheap ponchos and a Mountainsmith pack cover in there for rain. They can be removed if need be on days with no chance of rain.

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In the bottom front compartment I have the following: SmartWool Beanie (love it!), Bandana, Sharpie, Lighter, Purell, Camera tripod, Leatherman Wave, DMT Diafold hone in Fine and Extra-fine, Glow sticks, Altoids tin with spare batteries, Train schedule, and a few papertowels/tissues (reminds me I need to add a small roll of toilet paper). There’s still a bit of room inside this compartment. I plan to add a paint-stick strop and sandpaper in a baggie.

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The top main compartment is mostly empty. In there right now I have a Bic, tea candle, tick remover, and County Comm tweezers. I will probably add a spy capsule or altoids tin filled with PJCBs. This compartment and the M2 mounted on the side are left mostly empty to store small items when I go for a hike (snacks, keys, sunscreen, sunshade case, etc).

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Between the main large compartment and secondary large compartment there is a small snap-closure loop that I believe is meant to secure the zippers of those compartments. Not sure on that.

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The compression straps at the bottom of the pack are extra long and can be used to secure larger items like sleeping bags or tents to the bottom of the pack. Here’s an example with my maxped 10x4 bottle holder.

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And just a couple of shots on other configurations I tried:

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An M2 on each side works wells, but I needed to carry a bottle holder if I wanted to take my guyot, and it was a bit too bulky for a day hike.

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I might consider using this set-up for overnighters, and secure a bivy sleeping bag to the bottom of the pack, but it was too bulky and cumbersome for a mere day hike. The 10x4 doesn’t integrate with the pack with Tac Ties as well as I’d like, it swings around while you walk and is too bulky and obtrusive for day hikes. After talking with desmobob and trying it out, I’ve found that using the mini-rollypoly is a better solution for me because it’s lower profile and doesn’t swing around as much because the guyot rides closer to the pack.


Figured I’d throw this in as well, it’s a pic showing the attachment options on the shoulder straps. I can mount my Izula and Surefire G2 on either strap and have them within reach. I like this option better than actually wearing neckers. I’ll replace the G2 with a Fenix L2D Q5 when it comes in.

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Overall, I think this is an excellent daypack and well worth the money. Initial impressions are very good. There are a few minor things I’d change, but there are no deal breakers for me. One thing I hadn’t mentioned is that if you don’t use the pack at full capacity and really make use of the compression straps, things tend to get a bit messy and dangly. I wish Maxpedition came up with a system to better stow loose straps not in use. So far it’s not a big deal, I can just tie them off or otherwise secure them, but it might appear a bit messy to some. I wanted the best bombproof pack I could afford, and I do believe I got it.


This concludes the first half of the review, I will post in-use and on-back pictures once I get it out on its first hike (I hope that will be this weekend). Let me know in the meantime if there’s anything specific you guys would like to see or know and I’ll get more pics up for you.


One last thing:
I don't have much PSK stuff in this pack because I carry my PSK on my belt, you can check it out in this thread. This pack carries all my non-PSK day hike gear.
 
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Awesome! Thank you so much man, I have been looking at this as a addition to my current edc/ day pack lunada. I want something a little larger that can be more less a BOB that stays in the car, while I have my essentials on me in the lunada.

The pics were great, super job. I'm really liking how the main compartment folds open like that, I would find that a very handy feature.

N/M, should have waited. :O

Thanks again man, great review.:thumbup:
 
You're very welcome Fonly :) I think either this or the pygmy would fill that role perfectly for you :thumbup:
 
Very thorough---thanks!

Do you know whether the manufacturer gives an empty weight for the pack (I probably didn't study the link carefully enough)?

DancesWithKnives
 
Do you know whether the manufacturer gives an empty weight for the pack (I probably didn't study the link carefully enough)?

D'oh, I forgot about weight! :o

I remember reading on some site (info not provided on maxped site, you didn't miss it :)) that the empty weight is 3lbs or close to it. My lady has a scale I could use, but it sucks and would probably have an error of +/- 5lbs.

ETA: yes, according to ebags the pack comes in at 3lbs.
 
rk I had the same problem with compression straps on my Sabercat, but wound up buying some web dominators and they've taken care of them being in the way. I'm not using the compressions straps at all and really see no use for them on the Sabercat, but I don't want to cut them off either.
 
I appreciate the weight figure. I'm always torn between sturdy packs with lots of features (I have a couple Gregory packs) and really light packs with fewer features. For example, my Go-Lite Gust is made of spectra fabric, is quite strong, has big capacity, and weighs 20.4 oz. Not many pockets, pouches, straps, etc. though. For a lot of day hikes I find myself grabbing a much heavier but smaller Gregory. I guess I'm sometimes willing to trade weight for features on day hikes. That Maxpedition looks like it has every feature you could ask for. Really nice.

Thanks again,

DancesWithKnives
 
rk I had the same problem with compression straps on my Sabercat, but wound up buying some web dominators and they've taken care of them being in the way. I'm not using the compressions straps at all and really see no use for them on the Sabercat, but I don't want to cut them off either.

Thanks for the tip cs! :thumbup: I had no idea those things existed; I just looked them up. They look like the perfect solution to all that dangling webbing.

Thanks giant1. They look like a great size for edc, my edc jansport is larger than the Falcon and I don't use all the room in it either.

And you're welcome DancesWithKnives :thumbup: I think I'm of a similar mindset.
 
rksoon - thanks for the great review. I just recently ordered a PFII and was on the fence about getting it or the FalconII. On Maxpeds website the Falcon just looked too big and bulky, but in your pics it does not.

The one thing I enjoy about the PFII is that it has bottle pouches on the side, but I like the way you are able attach external pouches on the side of the Falcon.

Looks like I"ll have another purchase in the near future :)
 
For really good reviews of much of the Maxpedition line I often go to milspecmonkey's website. I randomly happened to run into him at SHOT, too and he was kind enough to give me a moral patch for my Malaga. Great guy--though alarmingly short! :D
 
Ranger bands will take care of those dangly straps. Or you could get some velcro from the auto parts store. Looks like a great pack, I've been wanting one of those and I'm looking forward to part two of the review. That knife also looks like a great peice of gear, when you do your second review could we see an unsheathed pic of it ( maybe even an in hand pic for scale?)

David
 
Awesome review bro!!

I have this pack on the way to me in foliage. It should be here today. Good stuff!!
 
Myright- Yes, I think they use a very small guy to model their products. The pack is pretty slim and relatively small. It fits well on my back, even with pouches and stuff attached to the sides. And I’m of pretty average size (measurements to come in part 2). If you look at the specs, the cargo capacity between the FII and PFII only differ by 2L / 120 cubic inches, that might give you a better idea of the relative size. I’ll be able to provide pics after its first hike.
I really liked the dual bottle holders on the Pygmy as well, but I wanted the built-in bladder pocket of the Falcon-II more. I like keeping the bladder in its own pocket for ease of loading. Mounting the mini-rollypoly on the side is a great compromise for me. :thumbup:

FortyTwoBlades
- The pics on the milspecmonkey review were one of the things that pushed me over edge with regards to choosing this bag over the Condor-II. :thumbup: Although I liked the cargo space in the Condor-II better than this pack, I really liked the compartments of the Falcon. I like the look of the Falcon-II as pictured in his reviews too, with the black buckles and zippers.

Echo4v- Ranger bands or velcro would work, I’ve been using simple rubberbands for now. I think the web dominators cssims suggested would be a durable solution I should investigate as well. I love the Izula; it’s a great little knife for a reasonable price. I haven’t had a chance to do much more than pet it yet, so I’m looking forward to playing with it. I’ll post in-hand pics for you later, with part 2 :thumbup: Here’s an unsheathed pic to whet your appetite (shown next to RC-4) :D

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I'm using a Tek-Lok now to mount it to the shoulder strap because those things are rock solid, but I might switch to using just paracord. It would slim down the profile of the blade on my shoulder strap.

Jake- Thanks :) I was debating between the khaki and foliage! Went with the khaki because I thought it looked better with the black accents, but it turns out the foliage product pics are more up to date and show the true color scheme. I thought that only the foliage products would be monochrome :o

Vic2367- Thank you!
 
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Rksoon, I hate to ask, but is there any way you can take Beam shots of the G2?
Its LED right?
 
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