Metal pens for Pilot G2 Gel refills ?

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Are they any metal pens that take Pilot G2 Gel refills ?
I'm liking the free easy flow and pretty high reliability of the Pilot G2 gels


I know the Parker G2 type is standard and common.

Despite the gel ink not being waterproof, Pilot G2 Gel's handy for grocery lists
Are there any metal pens made for it ?


Like the Zebra 701 does for the Parker type refill
sturdy, simple, won't break in the pocket, has a nice clip,
$10 price point of the zebra is fantastic.


or
gel refills that fit the Zebra/Parker refill
That don't have to be shipped from Japan for $25 shipping,
that don't leak if you leave them in a car hot or cold


yes I'm probably just wanting more fine point space refills but by the time I pay $15 a refill and shipping and imports, it's thirty bucks or more just for a refill.
 
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There's a ton out there that are made for the Pilot G2. Along with the Parker style G2 (do not get the 2 types confused), they're the most common you'll find in the potentially "machined pen" category (like the Tactile Turn mentioned above). I've actually done a massive amount of research myself (and have spent quite a bit lately) on pens like these, so I can probably find something that'll fit your needs. A few questions:

How much are you willing to spend?
How thick/heavy? For reference the F-701 is about .9oz and 10mm/.39" diameter. A Pilot G2 is lighter and thicker, obviously, and a metal pen of that thickness will be quite heavy.
Bolt action, clicky, or other?
How "tactical" do you want it to be (or not to be)?
Are you open to Parker style if there's a refill you like?

If you know where to look and what to look for, you can find machined titanium pens (yes, from China) for quite cheap. Most will use Parker style. Lots of bolt action ones, fewer clicky ones. Twosun makes a clicky one for about $40 (shipped from China) that's actually really quite good (they also make one that's crap). Finding one that uses Pilot G2 will be more difficult unless you're willing to spend more for something like a Tactile Turn, TiScribe, or Ti2 Boltliner.

The reason I ask about Parker refills is that you might not be aware that there's quite a few good gel refills you can get, like Ohto Flashdry, Itoya Aquaroller (hybrid ink), Monteverde, etc. Choosing a Parker style gives you the flexibility of also using a Fisher Space Pen refill should the need arise.

Speaking of Otho Flashdry and Itoya Aquaroller, if you do the Fisher Space Pen mod for your Zebra F-701, most of the plastic body Parker style should also work in the F-701 if you pop off the plastic end (doesn't work with metal body refills - the tube's body is too thin and will get stuck in the clicky mechanism). It seems like you might already be aware of this.

BTW, do not bother with the Grafton Everyman pens. Their mechanisms are plastic and cheap feeling.
 
FYI, Pilot does make a metal bodied G-2. It's not particularly fantastic though. Most of the Japanese pen companies make something like this; it's known as an "executive pen" and it's a metal, better version of their plastic ones (I have a Pentel Energel one), but they're not exactly high end and a far cry from something made from titanium, and not remotely as "executive" as a good rollerball or fountain. The main issue is the clip. You buy one because want a metal version of a plastic pen, but that means you get a cheap, stamped metal clip that bends and snaps easily. In other words, don't bother.
 
They sure do, I have one on the way from DLT (copper bolt action); that was one of the larger selling points for me.

I've got a short Slim, and it's definitely a nice pen. I swapped the spring for something a big stiffer (not necessary, just my preference), and also dropped in just a tiny piece of plastic so the tip would extend just a bit further. I think on older designs a common complaint people had was that the tip wasn't covered enough, so they recessed it further, but I think they recessed it too much. But mine is a Slim and uses Parker refills, so I don't know if the same will be with the regular ones. I kinda wish the bolt went the other way - it feels like it'd be more natural for a lefty (and indeed, feels better with my left hand, but I'm right handed - please don't quote that out of context).

Here's (most of) the retractable machined pens I've acquired so far.20210719_064922.jpg
(not pictured is my Magnus ClickShift and Nitecore NTP3I)

The pretty good Twosun I mentioned is 3rd from the left. The titanium one to the right of the copper one is the one in the group that takes Pilot G2s (I have a Pentel Energel in there - requires some modification). Those 3 that look the same (titanium, copper, titanium) are actually made by some guy right here in Tucson, but he's sold out of all of them.
 
There's a ton out there that are made for the Pilot G2. Along with the Parker style G2 (do not get the 2 types confused), they're the most common you'll find in the potentially "machined pen" category (like the Tactile Turn mentioned above). I've actually done a massive amount of research myself (and have spent quite a bit lately) on pens like these, so I can probably find something that'll fit your needs. A few questions:

How much are you willing to spend?
How thick/heavy? For reference the F-701 is about .9oz and 10mm/.39" diameter. A Pilot G2 is lighter and thicker, obviously, and a metal pen of that thickness will be quite heavy.
Bolt action, clicky, or other?
How "tactical" do you want it to be (or not to be)?
Are you open to Parker style if there's a refill you like?

If you know where to look and what to look for, you can find machined titanium pens (yes, from China) for quite cheap. Most will use Parker style. Lots of bolt action ones, fewer clicky ones. Twosun makes a clicky one for about $40 (shipped from China) that's actually really quite good (they also make one that's crap). Finding one that uses Pilot G2 will be more difficult unless you're willing to spend more for something like a Tactile Turn, TiScribe, or Ti2 Boltliner.

The reason I ask about Parker refills is that you might not be aware that there's quite a few good gel refills you can get, like Ohto Flashdry, Itoya Aquaroller (hybrid ink), Monteverde, etc. Choosing a Parker style gives you the flexibility of also using a Fisher Space Pen refill should the need arise.

Speaking of Otho Flashdry and Itoya Aquaroller, if you do the Fisher Space Pen mod for your Zebra F-701, most of the plastic body Parker style should also work in the F-701 if you pop off the plastic end (doesn't work with metal body refills - the tube's body is too thin and will get stuck in the clicky mechanism). It seems like you might already be aware of this.

BTW, do not bother with the Grafton Everyman pens. Their mechanisms are plastic and cheap feeling.
$ ?
maybe $50
It's not a need, I just had a whim.
So far I've not broken a Pilot in my pocket but it's on my mind.

I usually carry a space bullet, but I do want a clicky with a clip as the bullet tends to roll away on me.

when I do space pen, I go fine to skip the blocthy. I prefer fine points in general

Weight ? on the light side, aluminum, titanium, thin stainless, no copper or brass.

I've never had a bolt, I will try one some day
Probably a clicker of some style.
I don't care for twisties

I prefer the technical vs tactical look
silver not black with all sorts of odd things

I have a few parker jotters, but my fingers slide down the severe taper at the point.
good for a car pen with a space pen refill since it won't leak and always works, but not good for a lot of writing.



Gel Parker refills are probably the most practical for me to start with.

I may get a Schmitt 9000 easy flow at the same time.

This is probably all leading to me making a couple of my own, but that usually takes longer than it should.
 
So far I've not broken a Pilot in my pocket but it's on my mind.

I've broken countless Pilot G2 clips off, which set me on my years-long search find something better. So far I've found that Pentel Energel (the one with the plastic clip and translucent body) has the strongest clip. I've also found that I prefer the needle point Energel to anything. The 0.5mm is the best compromise between writing smoothness and precision. I actually prefer the 0.4mm for my uses, but it doesn't write quite as nicely. The Energel is one of the quicker drying gel inks you can get.

I usually carry a space bullet, but I do want a clicky with a clip as the bullet tends to roll away on me.

when I do space pen, I go fine to skip the blocthy. I prefer fine points in general

As do I. I have a growing stash of black medium FIshers because so many of of the pens you see above came with them. Schmidt Easy Flow 9000s too.

$ ?
maybe $50
It's not a need, I just had a whim.

Weight ? on the light side, aluminum, titanium, thin stainless, no copper or brass.

I've never had a bolt, I will try one some day
Probably a clicker of some style.
I don't care for twisties

I prefer the technical vs tactical look
silver not black with all sorts of odd things

For $50 and under, it's gonna be a bit tricky. As I said, the less expensive Chinese made ones typically use Parker style. In my picture above, the pen to the right of the carbon fiber Mathew Martin has a titanium body and uses a "Japanese style" gel (which is what the Pilot G2 is). Oddly though, it does not work with a Pilot G2. Of the gel pens I have handy, it does use a Zebra Sarsa, Pentel Energel, and Bic Gelocity. I can't find any Uniball gels (I have some...somewhere), but I can tell you that the Uniball Jetstream ballpoint fits (Jetstreams write very smoothly, btw, better than any ballpoint I've tried). Honestly though, it's probably the most mediocre of all the pens in that lineup. It's obviously not the most attractive, and while I haven't had any issues, the bolt doesn't hold it very securely when extended.

There's a Smootherpro bolt you can find very easily (you have 2 obvious choices, which I can't mention) with an aluminum body (PTC050 or 051 depending on color choice) that seems to be the same way - it comes with a Pentel Energel but can't use Pilot G2. I don't own one myself.

I'm honestly unaware of any clicky pens that fit this category for under $50 other than 2: The Grafton Everyman and the titanium one in my picture to the right of the copper one. The Everyman, honestly, is not great. It's not a bad pen, really. It's a bit thick for my tastes (I like 10mm or thinner), and while the body is solid the anodization isn't very durable. The plastic clicky parts are what makes it feel particularly cheap - essentially it's a cheap plastic pen with a thick metal body, although I've felt plastic pens that were smoother clickers. Again, not a bad pen, but it'll leave you feeling like it's not worth the $40 you spent.

The other pen, the titanium one that's a trio with the copper and other titanium one, doesn't really have a brand name. It's made here in Tucson by "The Right Choice Painting Company", and an absolute bargain for $40 (the copper was $30 or $35). But unfortunately they're all sold out. It's probably my fault too. The shorter titanium one (uses Parker style) is my daily beater pen, and customers are constantly complimenting me on it, so naturally I told them where to find one. Stock was already low, so I bought a second shorter one and the copper one. I'm pretty sure I got the last copper, the last Pilot G2 one, and close to the last titanium Parker. Everything is sold out now. You could reach out to them and ask if/when they plan to make more.

I have a few parker jotters, but my fingers slide down the severe taper at the point.
good for a car pen with a space pen refill since it won't leak and always works, but not good for a lot of writing.



Gel Parker refills are probably the most practical for me to start with.

If you can go with a Parker style, your options open up greatly. There's a bunch of inexpensive titanium ones (and steel and aluminum) under $50, or thereabouts, that you can find. The vast majority will be bolt.

The pen 2nd from the right is a Tacray, one of several that are very similar to each other, including the Civivi furthest on the right (they are different lengths with different textures, but the mechanism is identical). The bolt action goes either direction, which honestly makes it harder to use (when you try to retract it it's very easy to switch it to the other side instead). But it was $30, far cheaper than others of the same design/manufacture. Yes, the top is a spinny fidget thing (with a ceramic glass breaker on top).

The one to the left of the copper tipped DDR (the only one with a silver body and copper tip) is a Titaner and can be found for under $60, and it's my other daily beater. It's smooooth (after breaking in), and doesn't look too tactical, despite having a tungsten carbide glass breaker. It's honestly one of my favorites since it's mass produced, meaning I don't have to feel bad using it as a daily pen instead of one of my nicer ones.

The one 2nd from the left is also a Titaner, and it's an interesting pen. It comes with a Shcneider Gelion (writes nicely, costs too much to buy extras) but is designed to fit without the plastic bit. Also fits Ohto, Itoya, and other similar plastic body Parker style. It's between $50 and $60, and I only mention it because it's obviously smaller - the smallest retractable I've found that doesn't use a tiny D1 type ink (like the BigIDesign to its left), and closest to a Fisher in size.

Your best bet might be the Twosun I mentioned before, 3rd from left. ~$40 from China (more from the auction site, but they come from the same sellers). The click action is very smooth - it seems to be designed after the Schmidt SKM-88 mechanism (the DDR and painting company ones use it, the Tuffwriter copied it). The clip (also titanium) rides a bit high, but won't spin around like some designs (you have to remove it to unscrew the mechanism section) and leave a mark around the body. This one is bead blasted, but they make a satin/machine finish one now, but it only comes with a gold anodized clip, which you may or may not like. I bought 2 myself, and plan on stonewashing one (both if it turns out well). I do wish it had some texturing at the grip, but otherwise it's a great pen, and a bargain compared to spending ~$100 or more for something that isn't made in China. Don't confuse it with the Twosun 3rd from the right - it uses a D1 refill, and is mostly crap.

There's a cheap (under $20) titanium clicky pen that you can find (also sold under the name Valtcan for 3-4x as much), but I can't comment on it other than I don't feel confident in the clip holding up well. For the price I'd be surprised if the mechanism held up over time (or was anything other than plastic).

There's a Titaner with a thin titanium body, speckled finish (different colors), and kinda a mushroom topped clicky, for $40 or under. Don't bother. The mechanism is cheap plastic, the action is mushy and likes to jam up.

I may get a Schmitt 9000 easy flow at the same time.

I was seriously disappointed in the Schimidt Easyflow 9000. I read how great they were, but I think they're the worst ones I've tried. They don't always write off the bat, requiring some scribbling to get things going, and they glob horribly.

Of the gel refills I've tried that are Parker style, the Ohto Flashdry might suit you the best. Assuming you're OK with black, anyway. They write well, the needle tip gives you precision, and obviously a big selling point is that they dry quicker than others. Schneider Gelion 39s write very smoothly, and come installed with a lot of the Chinese made pens, but are expensive otherwise (especially if you want something other than black). Itoya Aquarollers are nice (manufactured by Ohto, actually), but are ballpoint rather than gel, so won't write quite as freely. I can't comment on Parker brand gels, having not used one in years (I remember not caring for it, but that was a long time ago). My gel Parker style of choice is the Monteverde needle point. I love needle points, and they come in blue, which is my preference, and they write smoothly with no globbing. Kinda pricey though, compared to others. The Monteverde fine ballpoint write well too.

That's all I can think of right now.
 
Have you tried pens with O rings as gripper aids ?

I feel like they would always be rolling off out of their grooves.
CA gluing them in place would leave a white residue.
 
Have you tried pens with O rings as gripper aids ?

I feel like they would always be rolling off out of their grooves.
CA gluing them in place would leave a white residue.
I have not. I assume that the grooves are deep enough and the o-rings are tight enough that them slipping off when writing isn't a problem. I'd be more worried about that happening from going in and out of my pocket, plus the repeated action wearing the rubber away quickly.
 
Pilot G2 is an extremely popular refill and there are plenty of pens that accept it. Pilot makes pens called Metropolitan, the rollerball version takes G2, these pens come in variety of colors from classic lacquered solid colors to animal prints. Pilot’s own premium brand Namiki, rollerball pens accept G2 refills. Waterman rollerball pens also accept G2 refills, plenty of models to choose from, very classy and well made pens, I own Perspective and Carene. If you want something more tactical, Karas Kustoms, Tactile Turn, and Sunderland Machine Works. Honorable mention Pentel Hexreform, this pen is part of Energel series, was released only in Asia but you can find them at online auctions, around $25-30. The pen is made out of aluminum, very minimalistic hexagonal profile similar to a pencil, bead blasted finish with anodizing in Blue, Green, and Brown. Best of luck with your new pen!!!
 
Almost forgot. Check out Lamy Safari series rollerball pens, they are made out of very durable plastic and come in variety of colors. Usually priced around $20. From time to time Lamy makes limited or seasonal runs of Safari pens in different colors. You have to make a very simple mode and Pilot G2 will work.
Pilot G2 refill is slightly shorter than Lamy M63 rollerball refill, you will need to put a short piece of plastic in top half of Safari pen. I use old gel or rollerball refills and cut small piece of the top.
As for Parker style refills. Uni-Ball Jestream, pricey around $7.50 at JetPens, exceptional refill that writes like a gel; another option is Ohto Flash Dry Gel refill PG-105NP with .5 needlepoint tip, cost around $2, great refill!
 
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I just learned tons from this thread I too am a g2 fan I am just starting down the rabbit hole just received a tactile turn slim bolt and have a smooth pen on order...thank you for the valuable timesaving info
 
I have a love/hate relationship with the Pilot G2 in my "nice" pens. When writing on paper and paper towels, they're fantastic. Unfortunately, the performance on the cardstock used at work is abysmal. Let one get away - meaning roll off the counter/desk/work surface - and it's done. One drop with the tip exposed, even with a new cartridge, and it won't write. With the tip back - flip a coin, cross your fingers, and hope - sometimes I get lucky.
 
I have been very happy with Tactile Turn bolt action pen though it is on the expensive side (relatively). Also the tip could come out a little more but it has worked just fine for me.
 
I have been very happy with Tactile Turn bolt action pen though it is on the expensive side (relatively). Also the tip could come out a little more but it has worked just fine for me.

The common complaint with the old Tactile Turn models (Shaker, Mover, Slider, Glider) was that the tip wasn't recessed enough, so they shrouded it more on subsequent models. You can drop a little bit of plastic or wadded up paper down the barrel to dial in the amount of tip that sticks out or not. There's a lot of length in the action, so you can still have it stick out a wee bit more but still retract enough that it won't write on your fingertip when closed.
 
If you like the pilot G2 gel refill you might like the Pentel Energel, especially 0.5mm even more.

These metal pens take both:

1. Machine Era Classic
2. Urban Survival Gear Ti Scribe Bolt
3. Most waterman Rolleball pens will take both.
4. Old Japan made Zebra R-301
5. Pilot makes an inexpensive metal alloy pen that takes both called the Limited.

Hope this helps.
 
If you like the pilot G2 gel refill you might like the Pentel Energel, especially 0.5mm even more.

These metal pens take both:

1. Machine Era Classic
2. Urban Survival Gear Ti Scribe Bolt
3. Most waterman Rolleball pens will take both.
4. Old Japan made Zebra R-301
5. Pilot makes an inexpensive metal alloy pen that takes both called the Limited.

Hope this helps.
Thanks
 
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