"Metallic Glass"

Search the site for Liquid Metal. I think it was RJ Martin who used it to make some knives several years (2-4) ago. This stuff if apparently an updated version with better properties.
 
Hypothetically if this process could be used to make tool alloys, in big enough sizes, and cheaply, then it could be a fantastic material. Problem is it can really only be created (right now) using weird (expensive) elements, in small quantities. Besides wear resistance is not guaranteed to be specially high. Cool stuff though, one of the biggest areas for metallurgical development
 
There have been may efforts to replace steel in knives with other materials. To date, none have the combination of attributes that steel has. Ceramic metals can be made to very high hardness, but will chip or shatter easily. Carbon fiber is very tough, but won't take an edge worth squat.......properly heat treated steel, with the alloy chosen for the task the knife is to do, will have what you want.
Why search for unicorns to eat, when the field is full of Angus beef.

All that said, these new materials are super cool !

I remember being asked to help with a demonstration in school back in the early 60's. I was the nerd kid, and was chosen to assist the man from Dupont to show some new things dealing with heat and strength. After the demos on dishes that could go from freezer to oven,and ones that could be dropped and not break, he took out what looked like a black handkerchief. He lit a blow torch, and then held the cloth up. He told me to apply the torch to the cloth. I did, and it glowed red where the flame was. He then had me turn off the torch, and handed me the cloth. It was unharmed, and not more than warm. He said it was a new material that was being developed for the space program and to be used in space suits. It was nearly bullet-proof, stronger than steel, fire resistant, and soft as silk.......it was a prototype for what they later patented as Kevlar.
 
Because unicorn is better. I like my panda bear steaks and California condor eggs too.

When one considers the fact that the ultimate material for a knife is largely unchanged since before Jesus was walking around, it sure seems like there would be some low hanging fruit there.

I want something with a HRC over 70, abrasive wear resistance as good as tungsten carbide, yield strength over 400KSI and with 50 foot pounds notched impact strength. And under $1000 a pound. There are plenty of relatively inexpensive materials better than that in one area or another, just not all of them. But even if cost were no object nobody has figured out anything better than steel. Steel is thousands of years old and common as dirt, surly there could be something better.

That they're considering the metallic glass for structural applications, it is probably too soft for a blade. But if they figure out a super material that will work for cutting applications, that would be awesome.

Carbides and some ceramics come close, but they're too brittle for a fine cutting.

I have my fingers crossed they'll eventually figure out an even better material. Thanks, I'll take my unicorn rare.
 
I'm waiting for the synthetic diamonds to come down in price and be available in 25mmX200mmX3mm size. Sharpening will be a B!$@h, but it will cut like h@!!.
 
How many times has the demise of steel knives been predicted? Liquid metal (a cobalt alloy) was mentioned. I remember all the hoopla the cover story in blade about cast liquid metal blades being the future. Forget production knives, Is anything being made from this stuff? Mark Twains response to his reported death come to mind "Reports of my demise have been greatly exagerated"
 
Yep,
Steel is cheap, plentiful, and makes a good knife.
Rare exotics are very expensive, not available in any quantity or size needed for knife making, and usually make a poor knife in some aspect.

All the hype about super processes and super alloys reminds me of a post on another forum yeas ago when a person said it seemed like the perfect knife would have the edge coated in tiny diamond crystals ( he had read about Fuller's experiments to make tiny diamonds from heating a graphite coated knife blade).
It was pointed out that sharpening a hardened steel blade would be easier, and produce a sharper blade.
However, the sales appeal of "My blades are coated with genuine diamonds" is far greater than, "My blades are sharp." - even though the second statement is far more desirable.
 
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Steel is cheap and available now, but it wasn't always so. It's almost silly how many fantastic alloys we have readily available to us today, compared to only a few decades ago. We're spoiled, I tell ya!

It could be that the modern fascination with beating plowshares into swords (so to speak) is just a hangover from not-so-long-ago when folks had no other choice. By that I mean, someone reads an old Foxfire or recalls stories Grampa told, and assumes that's the best way to make whatever. Fact is, for the price of lunch you can get a bar of steel for which my Grampa would have gladly worked all week.

Sorry for the thread drift... ceramic belongs in coffee cups, and diamonds belong on sharpening "stones"! :D
 
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When one considers the fact that the ultimate material for a knife is largely unchanged since before Jesus was walking around, it sure seems like there would be some low hanging fruit there.

Before Jesus, but well after we figured out "round" was a good shape for wheels. I'll hold off looking for an alternative to steel when we all have hoverboards.
 
All the hype about super processes and super alloys reminds me of a post on another forum yeas ago when a person said it seemed like the perfect knife would have the edge coated in tiny diamond crystals ( he had read about Fuller's experiments to make tiny diamonds from heating a graphite coated knife blade).
It was pointed out that sharpening a hardened steel blade would be easier, and produce a sharper blade.
However, the sales appeal of "My blades are coated with genuine diamonds" is far greater than, "My blades are sharp." - even though the second statement is far more desirable.

You what is mad? You can now have tools vapor coated with real diamond. It isn't even that expensive. It is a popular coating for carbide tools used to cut abrasive materials like fiberglass and graphite electrode etc. Though the coating fails pretty quickly unless the tool is used in relatively soft materials. It gets back around to diamond not being ductile, it has a brittle nature and makes a poor edge. You can even get solid diamond cutting tools, but they require an obtuse edge angle to hold up well.
 
How many times has the demise of steel knives been predicted? Liquid metal (a cobalt alloy) was mentioned. I remember all the hoopla the cover story in blade about cast liquid metal blades being the future. Forget production knives, Is anything being made from this stuff? Mark Twains response to his reported death come to mind "Reports of my demise have been greatly exagerated"

There are a couple of the newer American knife makers,(commercial, not custom), that are selling high quality cast, integral knives, right now. Canal Street Cutlery, is one that comes to mind.

EarlFH
 
There are several substitutes for steel that have been used for making knives that don''t rust, and are tough as a two dollar steak. Vasco Wear, Talonite, and Stellite 6K, are three that I know of. They will all hold a sharp edge longer than any steel, but when they do get dull, they are a bear to resharpen. They are also very expensive to make, due to the cost of the material, and the cost of the machine tools, that are worn out at a very high rate, to make them. I have a fighter made by a maker in California, using Stellite 6K, and it's almost impossible to sharpen it.

EarlFH
 
Nathan,
Somewhere in the cabinets, I have an Opthalmic scalpel with a diamond blade. It cost the government several thousand dollars. I believe they are used in some neurosurgery,too.
 
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