Mixed Kast o Lite too thin.

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Hello everyone, I recently made my second forge. I believe I mixed the refactory on the thin side, about the viscosity of marmalade I would say. It was applied by hand to the entire floor roughly 3/8 inch thick, and allowed to set for about half an hour. The body was then rotated, and around 1/4 inch was applied to the rest of the forge. I sealed it in a trash bag for 36 hours or so to cure, and veeery slowly brought it up to heat for the first time.

The issue is that the refactory is quite brittle, flakey, and pourous, not like KoL 30 should be I reckon. She cracked a bit on the first heat, they were small and filled with 3000* cement.

The way I see it, I did two things wrong that could be causing the lack of integrity- I did not cure it for nearly long enough, a week would be much better, and I mixed it perhaps too thin. I do understand the more water, the weaker, but I was willing to sacrifice some strength, just not this much.

I'm looking to apply a thin hard coat of something very flux resistant and strong to bolster the Kastolite. What are thoughts on this? So far I've been looking at Metrikote IR and Mizzou. The IR would be a swell bonus, but I need durability/ flux resistance first.

I'm not sure if he is a member here, but I give my thanks to Wayne Coe for his products and friendly wisdom in my building this, and to everyone here for their time and thoughts.
Just for kicks, I slapped together a "foundry" I made using 3 parts furnace cement, 1 part KoL powder from the dustpan, 2 parts white play sand, and one part cherry sawdust. The burner is a 30k Atlas. I don't expect it to last long.
I understand the bricks and stones I am using are at best big heat sinks. They were all heated slowly behind a face shield to hopefully eliminate the chance of spalling. Kiln shelves are on the list!
Thank y'all again
 
Bunch of red flags:
If it was in a trash bag for 36 hours no moisture really escaped. You need to have it out of the bag for a couple days to evaporate the moisture in the refractory. I usually recommend a week.

The mix you made does sound a bit thin (but that should have still set up).

Cast-o-lite is a castable refractory. 3/8" is a very thin layer and will likely crack. 1" is a better thickness, with 3/4 a bare minimum. Satanite is better for what you were doing. Satanite works fine in 1/4" to 3/8" thick layers.

The fire up is done very slowly, with a low flame for around 60 seconds … cool to room temp … fire for 100 seconds … cool … fire for 5 minutes … cool. fire on medium for 5 minutes …. cool … fire on high for 15 minutes. It should take four or five hours to fire the refractory right.

If cracks/flakes/chips form in the firings patch them and let the patch cure overnight. Satanite is the best material for patching cracks between firings. After patching and letting it cure, fire on low for 60 seconds and let cool. Check for new cracks and path them as needed. Once all the cracking has stopped, go up the firing schedule.
 
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