Mors Kochanski "Try" Stick

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A friend of mine got back a couple weeks ago from Taking a 7 or 8 day course with Mors Kochanski, through Karamat.

One of the things that was taught to practice knife skills was called the “Try” stick. I have the pamphlet on it that describes it in detail. But, basically it is one stick that you practice with carving about 14 different things all at the same time. So, you are not really “making” anything, but it is meant to practice and demonstrate skills. One of the things that the pamphlet says is “Some of the carving operations may be of very practical application, others are meant to tax the skill of the carver and some may be used for decorative purposes.”

There are also some things that are in the pamphlet that are not in the “try” stick.

I practiced this yesterday and figured I would share it, in case anyone else is interested. I think it could be a good drill for younger folks learning knife skills too.

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1) Cutting through a stick. Basically beaver chewing all the way around the stick, until you can break it off, and then trimming off the fracture neatly.

2) Diameter reduction. Used for toggles, packframe construction.

3) Pot Hook. Pretty self explanatory. Besides hanging a pot, I regularly make a “pot stick” using this notch to pull pots out of the fire. The method shown here is making two notches at angles on the wood, and having them overlap. I have been making this style notch differently for years by batoning an X in the wood, and then carving out 3 of the 4 pieces of the X. I am much faster at my method, but that is because I have done it more. Both seem to work, although this was my first try at this exact way of doing it.


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4) The round notch. Used for building a Roycraft pack frame. A simple and common notch in log buildings

5) The dovetail notch. Packframe, cooking crane.

6) 90 degree latch. Deadfall trigger.

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7) Planes, 90 degrees to each other. Deadfall trigger.

8) Split, with piece of wood/bark inserted.

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9) Notch for spear point. This can also be used for arro nocks, a netting needle, and I have also used it for cooking cranes when forked sticks were not available. This is where I screwed up Mor’s stick, because I was supposed to keep the other half of the joint to join the sticks together, but I trimmed it off before I realized that because I usually use it for 90 degree type applications. A knife edge or similar joint works well for sticking into these, because it wedges into them. This is probably one of the more difficult ones to make, and is actually detailed in the “Bushcraft” book, which I know most people have.

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10) Notch for bow string. Similar to the pot hook, just shallower.

11) Hole through stick. He mentions using this for the bow drill (but that seems like a lot of work to me), also used in an ojibway bird snare. Again, this one is detailed in Bushcraft.

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12) The root stripper. Basically a taper down end with a v-notch. Then, there is a split beyond the notch on purpose. Supposedly useful for stripping bark from spruce roots, although I have never used it for that.

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The completed stick, assuming that notch 10 should be put together with the rest of the stick : )

All was done with a thin bladed, oval handled scandi, which is a carving machine for this sort of thing.

One other final note is the pamphlet emphasizes that all of this should be able to be done quickly, efficiently and neatly.

I hope you find it useful.

B
 
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Nice work. Very lucid descriptions. There are a lot more carvings out there than I had ever seen.
 
thanks brian-yup find it very useful.
good simple notches. but it takes practice to do these sorts of tasks efficiently.
and i agree, gonna print this off and use it for some kids i work with.
 
Very cool! It's always helpful to me to see a real life example of something that was described in a book.

Which pamphlet was this from?
 
That would be a good test for one of the forum knife challenges. It would crtainly serve to demonstrate which knife accomplished a wide variety of tasks well.
 
thanks brian- my grandson will be turning 8 yrs old in dec. told him ill give him a mora. your pictures will be very helpful to get him started on the right track.
 
Who made the knife? :)

It is one of mine.

Which pamphlet was this from?

It was a handout from the class. My friend made a PDF for me. Most of the concepts are covered in his book, but not the concept of this stick. I thought it would be cool to post because it seems like a neat thing to teach, or to make one up and keep as a "demo" stick when teaching how to actually build something. As in "now I am going to create a notch like this one."

I will probably give it a go with some scouts this year.

B
 
Really appreciate the post. Maybe it's time for me to stop buying the big scarey knives and invest in a couple of classes so I can do more than baton big pieces of wood into tinder.
Anybody know of a good place to start? I live in north Texas east of Dallas.
 
Any chance you'd share the PDF?? Be great to print for my kids to practice-and me too!
 
Unfortunately, I have not been able to attend a Mors class in person. But, I have a couple of his videos and really like “Sticks as Tools and Implements.”

Until seeing that video, I never really thought of knife “efficiency” as a goal, and skill to practice at. When you see what he can do, and how fast he does it, it is like WOW! He even mentions in the video “What is the competition all about?” and he answers “Usually it is a competition against cold and given enough time, it will win.”
During that video, the first part is making a pair of Roycroft Snowshoe/skis. As quickly as he works, he can probably have a set made in 20-30 minutes. As good as I think I am with a knife, it would still probably take me about 2 hours : ) Good stuff!


Any chance you'd share the PDF?? Be great to print for my kids to practice-and me too!

Shoot me an email at offthemapknives at gmail dot com and I will see what I can do. I just want to double check with Karamat about giving out copies. It shouldn't be a big deal, but I want to check.

B
 
Are you implying that just batoning wood with an oversized knife isn't a demonstration of bushcraft skills? ;)
 
Are you implying that just batoning wood with an oversized knife isn't a demonstration of bushcraft skills? ;)

^ classic :D

thanks for the thread Brian, looks like a great way to spend a little down time
 
Thanks Brian,

Super thread, the stick would make a super teaching aid for knife use/work!

atb, John
 
Thanks very much for this. I am going to give it a try this weekend on my three day camp.

I too would very much like to see the PDF - if at all possible.
 
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