Mountain Lion attack

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Over Christmas, a friend of mine from Denver visited and I gave him my RAT 6, as he has lots of cougar sightings whilst hiking.

I am mulling a replacement and would love suggestions.

One thing I didn't like about it was the snaps on the sheath. They would be tricky if you had a lion on your back.

I'd like to stay in the same price range including the sheath sytem @ $100.

thanks much,

p
 
Was it a RAT 6 or RC-6. I don't know of any snaps on the RC-6. I would say if it was the Ontario version then you should get the RAT Cutlery RC-6. I love mine.
 
With a mountain lion on your back, snaps on your sheath are going to be the least of your worries pal LOL! The boogeyman ain't gonna get you if you stop watching Man vs Wild before you go to bed. With all the knives like the FI out there for $100 you're bound to find a sheath without snaps, now whether or not the knife will suit your purposes is another story. If you're trully concerned about mountain lions in areas you frequent then carry a sidearm, which is much more likely to save your hide than a knife in that type of confrontation. A mountain lion is coming at you with 10 knives (20 when it gets you on the ground and starts working those hinds on you), and a mouth full of trouble.
 
A knife is the last thing I want to be reaching for with a lion on my back. Be the predators four legged or two you want something designed as a weapon, not a tool that can substitute as one.
 
Thank you wilder!
Tracker and Dionne, I agree with you, but I live in Memphis and if headed to lion country, I'll be flying and a big knife is so much less trouble checking bags than a favorite firearm.

I'm not really concerned about an attack, but if one occurs, I want to go down fighting.

Plus, its fun to have a dramatic excuse for a mini sword.

You 2 may have given me an excuse to finally break down and get that serpa thigh holster I've always wanted (won't interfere with pack belt).

Thanks again and hope more suggestions to come,

p
 
When I attended Philmont, I was told by the rangers there that sharp objects were not a wise course of defense against attack from mountain lions.

Apparently, when they fight with each other over territory, mates, and sources of food, they use their claws and teeth---their natural weapons. Essentially, this means they are used to the sharp, fierce pain of a cut by nature.

The rangers recommended using blunt force---an object like a baseball bat (some of them carried aluminum ball bats strapped to their pack frames) or a sturdy hiking stick as the best method of stopping an attack in progress. They are scared by blunt force because it is not a sensation they habitually deal with.

That being said, I'd avoid using either a knife or a blunt object---unless that blunt object was a hollowpoint coming out of my S&W 329PD .44. :D

In regards to a trail knife, you could certainly do worse than another RAT! :thumbup:
 
Fighting and yelling like a crazed ape really frightens the hell out of cougars. As mentioned, a good solid club is a good defense, but so is a fierce haymaker to the cats nose if that's all you have in your arsenal. I have been visited by many cougars over the years, but have never been attacked. I contribute this to the backpack, which covers your back, and more importantly, your neck. The backpack seems to confuse the cats. If I was to get attacked nowadays, I doubt I could fight one off, I just don't have the meat on the old bones like I used to. I would, however, prefer to have a good long sharp knife, since handguns are illegal here, a rifle would be useless in close combat, and perhaps more importantly, I wouldn't want to go shooting blindly at something on my back. Chances are I'd shoot myself, or worse yet, someone else around me, so I'd stick to the blade myself. Cougars, while tough in their own right, do not like to fight, and will avoid it if at all possible. I can assure you that a swipe from a blade across the nose would be enough to send the cat running for dear life, let alone a full shank to the guts. Cougars aren't like tigers or lions, they are actually fairly easy to fend off. Where they become dangerous is when they attack children, weaker people or those who turtle rather than fight (often women), the elderly (me) or ill people. The average healthy male outweighs and outmuscles a cougar and it is only on very rare occasions that a cougar would attack someone like this.
 
Thank you wilder!
Tracker and Dionne, I agree with you, but I live in Memphis and if headed to lion country, I'll be flying and a big knife is so much less trouble checking bags than a favorite firearm.

I frequently fly with firearms and have no problems, laws vary from state to state so of course you have to check beforehand.

I have been personally involved in two cougar kills, both called in with a predator call. A knife is certainly better than nothing but make sure your personal affairs are in order and you have identification in your boot. :D Chris
 
First thing, if you're attacked you'll never see it coming, he'll get you from the back and pounce. Odds are you'll have a hard time reaching for a bat (not sure you want to hike with one to begin with), and an even harder time trying to hit an animal that fast with a stick or a bat. You may also be pinned down by the cougar after his initial attack and may not be able to get on your feet to defend yourself with a blunt object. A knife will be better IMHO. Several stories on the web from survivors who used knives to defend themselves against cougars. A gun is always best, but even then, if you don't hit something vital you still have a very pissed off cat tearing away at you. Odds are you'll have a knife on you regardless, and any survival type knife with a 5 or 6 inch blade should do fine. You may want to find something where the point comes to more of a drop, which is better suited for puncturing, as opposed to the wider tips on the RAT style knives. Perhaps an AL MAR SERE Operator would do well or Fallkniven S1 or A1.
 
Thanks William! I happened to buy a Temperance just before they stopped making them, but still feel it a valid excuse for a larger knife.
 
First thing, if you're attacked you'll never see it coming, he'll get you from the back and pounce.


This is true. The cat will stalk you from behind and go for the back of your neck. Its teeth are designed to seperate your veterbrae. Its wise to do a 360 every few minutes while walking in the mountains. I carry a firearm and knife always, but your best defense is to be aware.

Recently a Mountain Lion went inside someone's bedroom in Idlewild, CO and took their 70 lb Labradour Retriever. It jumped a six foot fence with the dog in its mouth.
 
your best defense is to look intimidating. If you get attacked chances are your in real big trouble because you look like prey, smell like prey and probably easy enough for it to kill like prey. A firearm could be nice but most places dont allow you to carry around a gun on a holster (not in Canada and most other countries). Ill stick to my knife I guess:)
 
You just need to wear one of these at all times. :D

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