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MTech knives
- Thread starter Wunderbar
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Vtech's quality is comparable to CRKT and the like, but what turned me off was some of their knockoff models.
For instance, their TitanX mimics the overall shape of the Classic Sebenza:
Pics from moteng.com
Their Venom looks like a Benchmade/Osborne wannabe:
pics from moteng.com
As far a MTech knives are concerned, I believe those are Master Cutlery's animals, ergo, they are rubbish in my opinion. Remember the drama involving them and Mike Turber? They supposedly got a hold of all the BOSS knife designs he was planning to release from the Chinese factory that was making them and began selling them with the MTech name. Then there was the incident with Joy Enterprises, but that's a whole other story.
For instance, their TitanX mimics the overall shape of the Classic Sebenza:
Pics from moteng.com
Their Venom looks like a Benchmade/Osborne wannabe:
pics from moteng.com
As far a MTech knives are concerned, I believe those are Master Cutlery's animals, ergo, they are rubbish in my opinion. Remember the drama involving them and Mike Turber? They supposedly got a hold of all the BOSS knife designs he was planning to release from the Chinese factory that was making them and began selling them with the MTech name. Then there was the incident with Joy Enterprises, but that's a whole other story.
M-Tech are BOSS leftovers. I see. I had a Cheetah and that was by far the worst knife I've ever owned. Well thanks a lot people. Now I know what to avoid when it comes to "cheap" butterfly knives. I think I'll just stick to my BM and maybe a MT Dragonfly. 
You get what you pay for with M-Tech. $5 will buy you $5 worth of knife. If they could be bothered to use better materials and less clumsy production methods they might actually be worth the money. Get Opinel for $5-10 instead,same price ut inspires more confidence.
For a more detailed description of non-bali M-Tech check out tests forum,i posted there about M-Tech cheapie i got me just for kicks. After flipping it for quite some time (you know,"inertial opening") it developed a tiny amount of vertical blade play (less than 1 milimeter at the tip). Lock still wouldn't fail which kinda irritates me (my guess was that it was the first thing to fail).
For a more detailed description of non-bali M-Tech check out tests forum,i posted there about M-Tech cheapie i got me just for kicks. After flipping it for quite some time (you know,"inertial opening") it developed a tiny amount of vertical blade play (less than 1 milimeter at the tip). Lock still wouldn't fail which kinda irritates me (my guess was that it was the first thing to fail).
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M-Tech is junk. I bought one of their folders for testing about a year ago. The piece locked up fine, but that's about it. The quality is better than the majority of Chinese knives, but they are still crap.
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The real scumbag behind the whole MTech mess is Victor and Henry Lee.
If you would like to express your opinion directly with Master Cutlery send a nasty gram to victor@mastercultery.com
If you would like to express your opinion directly with Master Cutlery send a nasty gram to victor@mastercultery.com
silenthunterstudios
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I have bought several Mtechs at a gas station in MD, one was a total POS, the other is fine for opening quarts of oil etc, cleaning battery posts and what not that I do not want to mess up the blade on my good knives. A step above the Jaguars etc, but on an even keel with the Frost brand from SMKW. Junk basically, but if that's all people can afford, gotta work with what ya got
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The most honest response would be to say that they are similar to many Red Chinese made knives. In my experience they are actually better than most of them. Comparing them to Frost is reasonable comparison, I think.
I think they are better then Jaguar knives also and Jaguars are made in Taiwan.
What confuses me sometimes is that I read glowing remarks about some Red Chinese made knives on this forum and this particular brand gets completely panned. It is as though there were political opinions about various importers because the differences in quality don't justify the rhetoric. So take all of this with a grain of salt. Red Chinese knives are currenly a cut above Pakistani knives and the best of them are almost on a par with the Taiwanese made knives. I think they will surpass Taiwan in short order.
Personally, I hate that the manufacturers have gone to Red China which I consider to be a competitor of the U.S. at best and an enemy at worst. But I understand that Americans have "voted" and want Chinese products. So I guess we might as well hope that the quality, which has improved noticeably, continues to improve.
I think they are better then Jaguar knives also and Jaguars are made in Taiwan.
What confuses me sometimes is that I read glowing remarks about some Red Chinese made knives on this forum and this particular brand gets completely panned. It is as though there were political opinions about various importers because the differences in quality don't justify the rhetoric. So take all of this with a grain of salt. Red Chinese knives are currenly a cut above Pakistani knives and the best of them are almost on a par with the Taiwanese made knives. I think they will surpass Taiwan in short order.
Personally, I hate that the manufacturers have gone to Red China which I consider to be a competitor of the U.S. at best and an enemy at worst. But I understand that Americans have "voted" and want Chinese products. So I guess we might as well hope that the quality, which has improved noticeably, continues to improve.
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Cosmic Superchunk said:
ha. I picked up a Master Cutlery knives a few years ago just to see how bad it really was. It was supposedly designed by Tom Anderson. I tested it out a little. The blade is stamped 440 and would not take an edge. I finally ground an edge onto it with my Dremmell that could shave, but I cut some cardboard and, alas, the edge was no more. So I threw it into a box of junk knives that I've picked up (some literally picked up off the street) and forgot about it.
Until a few days ago. I'm in the process of moving (in a few months anyway) so I'm going through some crap that has accumulated and getting rid of what I don't need. I came across the box of junk knives and the Master Cutlery was on top. I got it out and flipped it open. It would be a nice design if it had quality materials; and actually, the handle isn't bad, the scales seem to be 410 or something along those lines. And the 440 blade, albeit impossible to sharpen, has a nice shape. The liners are a little thin, but workable. But I decided that I really had no use for the knife, so I started taking it apart for the inner workings (screws, washers, etc). Once I had anything of possible vaule off the knife I sat with the blade in my hand. "hmmm," I thought, "i wonder..." So I did a bare hand flex test. Yes, I was easily able to bend the blade with my hands... so much for heat treating.
Where this knife really failed, apart from the lacking heat treat, was the fit and finish department. But since I bought the knife just to see how bad it was, I can't really complain there. Out of the box it was dull as a baby's ass and had so much blade play I was suprised it held together. Despite the blade play, it locked up pretty tight; but I was able to bend the liner lock with some backwards pressure on the blade with the handle locked in a vice.
On its behalf, I will say that it was an extremely enjoyable knife to destroy.
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i have their tactical fixed blade with mini knife in micarta handle kydex sheath as for as cheap knives go this one takes an edge holds it and i'm running it thru the paces as a go to survival blade
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mtech blows. i used to get them in a gas station in suitcase city-the hood of all hoods, in tampa. not a smart place to sell slash 'n' dash knives, but thats just my $.02 their butterflies aren't even that great. get a jaguar if you're looking for something similar. all the mtech knives were good for, besides providing murder weapons to the peewee gangbangers, is to cannibalize for parts such as thumbstuds and whatnot.
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For the price of an MTech that rips other people off and has unrealible quality, you can by a knife like a Byrd.
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What I find most unusual though is how Mtech consistantly seems to have knives "designed" by American makers.
I have seen several of these ads , for instance in the Dec 06 Blade there is an ad for a "Strike 3 and Red Eye" designed by "Wally Hayes , Master Bladesmith of the American Bladesmith Society".
Admitidly the Strike 3 has an intersting blade shape , the Red Eye though with the addition of a red LED is pure frickin cheese, what might one ask is the purpose of a red LED on the top of the scales ?
I will say they have some interesting designs , too bad many of them are not thier own.
A while back I bought a Mtech karambit out of curiosity and , well.. other than the cheapass steel it is not too awful bad of a knife. Lockup is solid and it feels good in the hand.
Now here is the kicker that has me damn curious. I have several kit knives and they all use the same indentical pivot screw as the Mtech I have , I have also seen this pivot on other knives in Blade and on various sites , which makes me wonder who gets what from where ? I know the kits I buy are made in China even though they do not go out of thier way to provide that info , I'm wondering if the same factory that produces Mtech , produces these kit knives....
There is a lot of knocking on Chinese knives here (and perhaps rightly so) but whats the point overall ? Nearly everything in every PC we use , from the moniter you are viewing this page on , to the keyboard I am typing on , is made in China. Your cell phone , your toaster , your TV , many of the parts in your "American made" car/truck the list is long and heavy.
I recall when I was young that my folks and elders rule of thumb was never buy anything made in Japan because it was junk (hence the term rice burner i.e.) and many of us know now that Japan produces some of the finest knives on the planet and has for centuries.
See my anology ?
Long story short , all of us are better served buying quality items , China is now producing quality knives such as the Byrd line by Spyderco , the other day I got my Marbles slipjoint in the mail , made in China , can ya believe it !!?? But I tell ya what , that is one Hell of a fine slipjoint , the blades are all razor sharp out the box , the bone stag is actually beautiful and the F&F is outstanding , a fantastic bargain for $20.and of course I polished off the "China" from the blade
at least that way I can pretend.
I have seen several of these ads , for instance in the Dec 06 Blade there is an ad for a "Strike 3 and Red Eye" designed by "Wally Hayes , Master Bladesmith of the American Bladesmith Society".
Admitidly the Strike 3 has an intersting blade shape , the Red Eye though with the addition of a red LED is pure frickin cheese, what might one ask is the purpose of a red LED on the top of the scales ?
I will say they have some interesting designs , too bad many of them are not thier own.
A while back I bought a Mtech karambit out of curiosity and , well.. other than the cheapass steel it is not too awful bad of a knife. Lockup is solid and it feels good in the hand.
Now here is the kicker that has me damn curious. I have several kit knives and they all use the same indentical pivot screw as the Mtech I have , I have also seen this pivot on other knives in Blade and on various sites , which makes me wonder who gets what from where ? I know the kits I buy are made in China even though they do not go out of thier way to provide that info , I'm wondering if the same factory that produces Mtech , produces these kit knives....
There is a lot of knocking on Chinese knives here (and perhaps rightly so) but whats the point overall ? Nearly everything in every PC we use , from the moniter you are viewing this page on , to the keyboard I am typing on , is made in China. Your cell phone , your toaster , your TV , many of the parts in your "American made" car/truck the list is long and heavy.
I recall when I was young that my folks and elders rule of thumb was never buy anything made in Japan because it was junk (hence the term rice burner i.e.) and many of us know now that Japan produces some of the finest knives on the planet and has for centuries.
See my anology ?
Long story short , all of us are better served buying quality items , China is now producing quality knives such as the Byrd line by Spyderco , the other day I got my Marbles slipjoint in the mail , made in China , can ya believe it !!?? But I tell ya what , that is one Hell of a fine slipjoint , the blades are all razor sharp out the box , the bone stag is actually beautiful and the F&F is outstanding , a fantastic bargain for $20.and of course I polished off the "China" from the blade
at least that way I can pretend.after looking at this thread i decided to take a look at some of thier current offerings. (havent done so in ages)
heres the fun i had:
they are actually ripping off dork ops !
Strat
and a multitude of kershaw onions including:
boa
bump
but this one takes the cake! i was actually speechless
brace yourself
sng
heres the fun i had:
they are actually ripping off dork ops !
Strat
and a multitude of kershaw onions including:
boa
bump
but this one takes the cake! i was actually speechless
brace yourself
sng
