My cruise ship knife experience

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as promised, an update of my recent R/C cruise.

in their literature "what not to bring" it stated "knives with over 4" blade, no lock back serrated knives, dive knives", then went on to curling irons.

I brought; Buck Hartsook, Boker CLB subcom (non-serrated), Buck 425, Spyderco Salt (non-serrated), Wenger Air Traveler (made it through every flight for the last 6 months I owned it).

Upon arrival, we went through a screening of our persons, I had the Wenger and the Boker on me. Wenger and Boker went in "dog dish" with other pocket contents then though xray. I told attendant it was a money clip (and It did have money clipped to it). No problem with them at all.

Buck 425, Hartsook, and Spyderco were in 2 seperated pieces of luggage. My small suitcase arrived at my cabin, it had the Buck and a Leatherman Micro. No problems.

An hour later, I got a call from security to come to their office. I figured it was a knife related problem so I brought their rules with me. I made contact with security. She asked me to open my suitcase (was locked). She poked around for a while then asked another security person what the problem was. That person said it was a knife. She asked if I had a knife, I said, "of course." then retrieved the Spyderco. She opened it and used her fingers to measure the blade length. She was small. She then tried to close it. I had to close it for her before she bleed. I should mention that English was not her native tongue. She said I can not have it. I showed her the R/C rules. She said they will store it in security, and can have it for shore excursions.

I figured nothing could change her opinion. I obtained a receipt and took my luggage to my room.

My first shore excursion, I had security retrieve my knife. That security agent looked at the knife with an expression of, "what'd we take this one for?" We did our shore excursion and later returned to the ship. I could only go through the metal detector first then speak to security. I put my backpack through the x-ray and put the Spyderco and the Buck 425 in a dog dish and through the x-ray machine too. It went through and I collected all items. None of the security personnel were interested in them and were most concerned about alcohol or food being brought onto the ship. Which I guess is their proper proceedure, my knife did fit the allowable perameters of their policy.

My suggestions, carry a few spread out throughout your luggage. Keep a copy of their rules handy.

The Spyderco was great, as advertised, no rust. Buck 425 suffered a little spray salt damage, but I fixed that when I got back.

I hope this helps
 
+1 on that spyderco salt. I got one the first year they came out and have carried it daily since. I actually wanted a spyderco assist with the orange frn but the store was sold out and pushed me toward the yellow handled salt( i wanted a high visability knife). Nowdays i consider this my "beater" knife and do just about everything to it. This is the knife i am learning to sharpen on, and i couldn't ask for more from it. It has lasted me to this day and i believe that it will continue to last forever.
 
I was on a Royal Caribbean cruise at Thanksgiving......got flagged at the Mexican security checkpoint in Puerto Vallarta. The knife in question is a Benchmade Vex....why? Because it is small-ish (3.25" blade), affordable if lost or "stolen" and a solid performer should CQC/D be necessary.

Very courteous Mexican security fella took me to a special exit, and we went to the shipboard security checkpoint....dude actually tried to do the "finger test"....and said "you fail, gimme your knife".:( I said hold on there, Officer Jugdish(from Animal House, hopefully you get it) and pulled out a tape measure....I don't fail....:D

Carry a tape measure and the rules....much more efficient.....with a ruler, size is not something that is open to interpretation.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
thanks for these stories, very informative & useful

But sorry to hear the state of things, i.e. getting stopped for a Vex. Jeez.

Although I will say, in their favor, that a 4 inch limit (in the rules) is not bad...
 
as promised, an update of my recent R/C cruise.

in their literature "what not to bring" it stated "knives with over 4" blade, no lock back serrated knives, dive knives", then went on to curling irons.

I brought; Buck Hartsook, Boker CLB subcom (non-serrated), Buck 425, Spyderco Salt (non-serrated), Wenger Air Traveler (made it through every flight for the last 6 months I owned it).

Upon arrival, we went through a screening of our persons, I had the Wenger and the Boker on me. Wenger and Boker went in "dog dish" with other pocket contents then though xray. I told attendant it was a money clip (and It did have money clipped to it). No problem with them at all.

Buck 425, Hartsook, and Spyderco were in 2 seperated pieces of luggage. My small suitcase arrived at my cabin, it had the Buck and a Leatherman Micro. No problems.

An hour later, I got a call from security to come to their office. I figured it was a knife related problem so I brought their rules with me. I made contact with security. She asked me to open my suitcase (was locked). She poked around for a while then asked another security person what the problem was. That person said it was a knife. She asked if I had a knife, I said, "of course." then retrieved the Spyderco. She opened it and used her fingers to measure the blade length. She was small. She then tried to close it. I had to close it for her before she bleed. I should mention that English was not her native tongue. She said I can not have it. I showed her the R/C rules. She said they will store it in security, and can have it for shore excursions.

I figured nothing could change her opinion. I obtained a receipt and took my luggage to my room.

My first shore excursion, I had security retrieve my knife. That security agent looked at the knife with an expression of, "what'd we take this one for?" We did our shore excursion and later returned to the ship. I could only go through the metal detector first then speak to security. I put my backpack through the x-ray and put the Spyderco and the Buck 425 in a dog dish and through the x-ray machine too. It went through and I collected all items. None of the security personnel were interested in them and were most concerned about alcohol or food being brought onto the ship. Which I guess is their proper proceedure, my knife did fit the allowable perameters of their policy.

My suggestions, carry a few spread out throughout your luggage. Keep a copy of their rules handy.

The Spyderco was great, as advertised, no rust. Buck 425 suffered a little spray salt damage, but I fixed that when I got back.

I hope this helps
Cold Steel "Nightshade" series would be ideal for cruise ship travel. Non-metallic, so metal detectors are not a problem. Hide one in the back of your belt, under your untucked shirt, and you shouldn't have any problem with security personnel.
 
good thought on bringing a tape measurer, will do next time.

I have some synthetic stuff that I could have brought but did not know what kind of security I was going through. I probably will bring a shomer-tec or CS delta dart next time. I did not know if it was going to be x-ray, metal detector, or densonometer. I could explain common knives better than stuff designed to thwart security.

I would like Spyderco to make a smaller knife in H1, maybe the size of a dragonfly. Call it a lifeguard knife or something. I just like the ability to swim in salt water with a knife that can handle it.
 
good thought on bringing a tape measurer, will do next time.

I have some synthetic stuff that I could have brought but did not know what kind of security I was going through. I probably will bring a shomer-tec or CS delta dart next time. I did not know if it was going to be x-ray, metal detector, or densonometer. I could explain common knives better than stuff designed to thwart security.

I would like Spyderco to make a smaller knife in H1, maybe the size of a dragonfly. Call it a lifeguard knife or something. I just like the ability to swim in salt water with a knife that can handle it.
Cold Steel's "Nightshade" series push-daggers are perhaps the best for a SD situation. You can use standard boxing blows and it is much more difficult to dislodge a push-dagger from the fist that it is any other type of knife design. Besides, they hide better in the back of the belt than a conventional design. For everyday use on the cruise ship, the SAK would be your best bet. Put it in the little dish before walking through the metal detector and the cruise ship line's rent-a-cops will be happy. They don't need to know about the "Nightshade". That will be your little secret. PS: I wouldn't tell the wife or girlfriend about it either. Weapons tend to make sheeple, especially women, very nervous.
 
I went on a mini cruise from Cyprus to the Holy Land in 1999 and I took my Champion Swiss Army knife with me in my hand luggage and it did not cause me any problems when I boarded the cruise ship. The security people did not seem to be searching for weapons and security was not very tight, probably because there is very little violent crime in Cyprus and this was prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. They may be a bit stricter now. I was glad that I left my knife in my cabin though because when I left the ship to go on the excursions the Israeli police searched through everyone’s bags. I think that they were looking for explosives though, because they only really examined my camera.

I feel that I should point out that when I went on a boat trip from Porec in Croatia to Venice in 2006 it was very different. I had to pass through metal detectors and security at the port in Venice before I could board the ship for the return journey. The Italian security guards were quite strict. People who set off the alarms were thoroughly searched, even if it was only because they had metal coins in their pockets and there were signs everywhere telling travelers that they could not pass though security carrying knives or cutlery in their luggage, even small pocket knives! I thought that this was a being a bit paranoid as most boating enthusiasts use knives and multi tools and you can get in quite a mess if you try to eat your dinner without a knife and fork!
 
i am going on a carnival cruise to the south Caribbean islands soon... i want to bring a blade with me of some sort. i read through http://www.carnival.com/cms/Images/Promo_Content/PDF/prohibited_items.pdf but I am still uncertain... I want to bring my BM32morpho, it is sub 4in (3.25" to be precise). Any one have any thoughts on this based on experience. My other concern is it being a bali as well...

I read people suggesting the cold steel nightshade, but has anyone actually traveled with it and not gotten hassled?

I dont want to get a blade confiscated, especially my morpho. and I dont want to buy a non-metallic one if people havent had any luck with getting it past security. Do they use metal detectors? Or the more sophisticated machines that can detect density?

Also, keep in mind that I do want to take this on every shore leave, dont really care about having it on the ship as much... So checking it isnt an issue with me if they are accommodating...

Any input would be greatly appreciated
 
i am going on a carnival cruise to the south Caribbean islands soon... i want to bring a blade with me of some sort. i read through http://www.carnival.com/cms/Images/Promo_Content/PDF/prohibited_items.pdf but I am still uncertain... I want to bring my BM32morpho, it is sub 4in (3.25" to be precise). Any one have any thoughts on this based on experience. My other concern is it being a bali as well...

I read people suggesting the cold steel nightshade, but has anyone actually traveled with it and not gotten hassled?

I dont want to get a blade confiscated, especially my morpho. and I dont want to buy a non-metallic one if people havent had any luck with getting it past security. Do they use metal detectors? Or the more sophisticated machines that can detect density?

Also, keep in mind that I do want to take this on every shore leave, dont really care about having it on the ship as much... So checking it isnt an issue with me if they are accommodating...

Any input would be greatly appreciated
I took a Cold Steel "Nightshade" boot knife (5" blade) thru a courthouse metal detector several times without problems. The court that I had to go to was located in an especially bad part of a crime-ridden city. I realize that I would be subject to arrest if caught, but that is a chance that you take. Would you rather be a live arrestee/defendant or a dead/maimed sheeple? Your choice here. I just give the advice and let each make up his/her own mind. That said, the "Nightshade" non-metallic knives are light and easy to conceal. Stay away from the really large ones though (CAT Covert Action Tanto, Tai Pan, etc.) as they cannot be concealed as easily as the smaller ones. Carry it inside the waistband, in the small of your back, since you will be asked to remove your belt when going thru metal detectors (courthouse, cruise ship or otherwise). The smaller "Nightshade" offerings are quite effective and easily concealed. If the worst happens and the knife gets confiscated or you have to use it and ditch it, you will only be out a very few dollars.
 
If you are leaving through Pureto Rico, I think you would be going through the same type security I did. I would lean towards more conventional type knives, the smaller the better (through security, that is). And bring several, they may just get happy finding one and stop the search. Shipboard security was able to find my Spyderco Salt, FRN handle, Titanium clip, <4" blade. So the less metal the better. I never felt SD was an issue on shore excursions (except in St. Thomas), but I refuse to be without a blade that can be employed for that purpose. Shomer-tec use to have a Blackie Collins CIA dagger type knife, similar to the CS synthetics. Mine has a pen type clip, great for inside the pants or in the sock. I went through the metal detector after putting my Buck 425 in the pass through tray, no problems and even handed back to me with, "sir, you forgot this." Spyderco was in shoulder bag and not challenged upon my return. I would also refrain from visable pocket carry onboard the ship.

One thing I did learn as stated above. Just because their rules say so, they do not have to abide by them.
 
If you are leaving through Pureto Rico, I think you would be going through the same type security I did. I would lean towards more conventional type knives, the smaller the better (through security, that is). And bring several, they may just get happy finding one and stop the search. Shipboard security was able to find my Spyderco Salt, FRN handle, Titanium clip, <4" blade. So the less metal the better. I never felt SD was an issue on shore excursions (except in St. Thomas), but I refuse to be without a blade that can be employed for that purpose. Shomer-tec use to have a Blackie Collins CIA dagger type knife, similar to the CS synthetics. Mine has a pen type clip, great for inside the pants or in the sock. I went through the metal detector after putting my Buck 425 in the pass through tray, no problems and even handed back to me with, "sir, you forgot this." Spyderco was in shoulder bag and not challenged upon my return. I would also refrain from visable pocket carry onboard the ship.

One thing I did learn as stated above. Just because their rules say so, they do not have to abide by them.
True enough. If you argue with the shipboard security personnel, the captain or the XO (executive officer) has the authority to put you ashore at the next stop and leave you to find your own way home.
 
ok so i have decided that i will be bringing a "dive knife"... apparently i can check this in and out at port. just need to find a dive knife to my liking :)
 
yea, they are real restrictive. bicycles are not allowed on the ship at all (even to use at port), but skateboards are (but only for use at port). WTF?

i mean look at this: does some of this make any sense?
http://www.carnival.com/CMS/FAQs/What_NOT_to_Pack.aspx

more detailed:
http://www.carnival.com/cms/Images/Promo_Content/PDF/prohibited_items.pdf

"Household Goods or Tools of Trade - These items cannot be brought on board."
What does that even mean!?! If i am a plumber i cant bring a wrench?

I am bringing an obvious dive knife and checking the thing. I am not getting stuck on an island without a weapon/tool.
 
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