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My LC200N Mule Rusted. How is that possible??

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by neffarious, Feb 19, 2018.

  1. NJBillK

    NJBillK Custom Leather and Fixed Blade modifications.

    Mar 27, 2014
    I was hoping it wasn't one of the Deep Ones... Good to see it wasn't.
     
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  2. neffarious

    neffarious Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 23, 2012
    No Chtulhu here
     
  3. SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

    Apr 13, 2004
    Unless his was one of the earlier ones ground at the factory in this batch, shortly after having just ground something else, say a carbon steel. After a number of LC200N knives ground, the contamination would likely get less and less, until all signs of the carbon steel had disappeared on later blades. One of many possibilities. I still lean towards contaminated steel, but there are many ways that it could have happened.
     
  4. neffarious

    neffarious Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 23, 2012
    Both previous mules were not stainless. Still doesn't explain the edge though. That was sharpened a couple times and still rusted. Spyderco reached out and we are arranging shipping. Should be in their hands soon enough.
     
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  5. neffarious

    neffarious Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 23, 2012
    UPS has the box. Gave it to them yesterday, so let the waiting begin.
     
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  6. Sal Glesser

    Sal Glesser Moderator Moderator

    Dec 27, 1998
    Thanx much.

    sal
     
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  7. neffarious

    neffarious Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 23, 2012
    Thank you as well.
     
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  8. 353

    353

    991
    Feb 20, 2015
    This will be interesting. Is LC200N equal to H1 in corrosion resistance?
     
  9. Shock_

    Shock_ Gold Member Gold Member

    333
    Nov 8, 2015
    In on this thread for the results. I am anxiously awaiting the LC200N Native. I work around de-icer and fertilizers and was looking forward to the new Native.
     
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  10. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
     
  11. Sal Glesser

    Sal Glesser Moderator Moderator

    Dec 27, 1998
    thanx Ty,

    fun video.

    We use Q-Fog. Salt spay, hot dry, salt sprary, hot dry, etc. for 24 hours with charts, graphs and photos to see results.

    sal
     
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  12. The Mastiff

    The Mastiff

    Apr 21, 2006
    My guess is it has something to do with the scales. I'd bet the problem begins there. Maybe the scales need to be passivated too. :) My halperin scales are never used in conditions like that so I wouldn't know yet if they are the same way.

    The dust is difficult to see and I've found it still on blades after washing them in soap and water. It takes usually a good waxing with a soft clean cloth to get that tiny particle stuff off as much of it is magnetized and stuck to the steel in the grooves left from polishing we need a microscope to see. Commercial outfits often use an acidic(?)base(?) solution to get metals passivated. Even Titanium can have problems if contaminated.

    Joe
     
  13. NJBillK

    NJBillK Custom Leather and Fixed Blade modifications.

    Mar 27, 2014
    From the looks of them, I thought they were carbon fiber.
     
  14. The Mastiff

    The Mastiff

    Apr 21, 2006
    Yeah they do look like it. They might have dust on them from a sander or buffer too. The worst areas of rust were under the grip and where the screws are. I just think that is where the dust or ? was introduced from not the mule itself. There is always the possibility it's an incorrectly marked piece of steel but I'd take the dust bet personally.

    Joe
     
  15. neffarious

    neffarious Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 23, 2012
    The pins were not rusted. The scales are silver twill. Not quite CF, but similar, like the Gayle Bradley air had.
     
  16. neffarious

    neffarious Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 23, 2012
    should be there tomorrow :)
     
  17. jbmonkey

    jbmonkey Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 9, 2011
    so they replaced it which is great...but any feedback from spyderco on what happened and why? thanks.
     
  18. Cscotttsss

    Cscotttsss Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 3, 2015
    I believe he meant that it should arrive @ Sypderco tomorrow.
     
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  19. neffarious

    neffarious Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 23, 2012
    Yes, that is exactly what I was saying hence "there", not "here" :). I hope fo answers soon as well. I missed not having it on my fishing trip this past Saturday. I used my Salt 2, but honestly the straight blade on the Mule is easier to deal with than the serrated one on the Salt.
     
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  20. Danke42

    Danke42

    Feb 10, 2015
    It's going to probably take them a while to check out the material.

    They won't have a guy in the back staring a screen and saying "enhance".
     
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