New cockfighting knives announced

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I saw that the Daniel's are releasing a new line of giant sized commemorative cockfighting knives in a unique gunstock handle through their Excelsior Knife Co line. Does anyone collect these style knives? They also announced that there will be a run of traditional sized ones handled in Mammoth Ivory coming out with their Napanoch Knife Co brand. The Excelsior ones are called Gun-COCK-Jacks, and the Napanoch ones are called Dixie Cock Knives.
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I was interested in the original run of the Napanoch Dixie Cock Knives, which were the basic ones offered in plain steel, with stag or lightning wood as scales. Received an email on my initial inquiry, price was steep, but I was still interested and asked if it was possible to get some pictures of individual knives to see what was available to choose from. I never heard back after that and let it drop. It's an interesting knife and I still wouldn't mind picking one up, but when you start to add Damascus, mammoth, and pearl handles, I'm pretty sure these upgraded models are priced beyond what I would want to pay.
 
When I saw the title of this thread, I jumped to the conclusion that Bill had really lost it this time!! Pheww!! More extreme than Forks and Combs!!
I'm sure they turn some cranks out there, but I gave up Cock Fighting a couple of ancestors ago!! 🤣
 
Yep, poor marketing choice if it glorifies pitting animals.

Something wrong inside anyone who thinks this symbolism is in some way cool or nostalgic.

Go join an underground MMA club and pit yourself against another consenting human would be the only honourable way to cure oneself of this sickness.
 
They are advertised as commemorative knives honoring the roots of Appalachian history. I don't think they are intended for actual use of any kind, since cockfighting is illegal in all 50 states. There is a large collector base for these style of knives due to their uniqueness.
 
Never heard of this type of knife. Always something to learn here.

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The knives are interesting to look at; but I don't expect there were ever anything similar to these used for the purpose they are insinuated. The saw would put way too much pressure on the roosters leg and the seam ripper would never fit in the intended seam. I have seen historic models that appear similar - just not sure they were made for the actual use by someone that understood the function.

As to the cruelty aspect, it is a human continuance of a natural character. Animals fight in nature, many times to the death. Roosters will naturally grow long, sharp spurs. Even yellow leghorns will annihilate their own clutch mates when a good hard rain changes their appearance just a bit. But if I were born a rooster - I would much rather live 2-3 years pampered in a pen or on a tie string with hens wondering by every once in a while than coming out of the millions of eggs a year that supply our food industry via Tyson chicken farms, etc.. Three good months with about 6 square inches of your own space and then have your throat slit for little Billie's nuggets. Might even have a chance, even if it were 1 in 100, that I could spend my life in a brood-pen. Chickens are not taught to fight, just like children are not taught to sin - it is our nature that makes us do the things we do. Having humans affix spurs to shorten the battle for the most accurate bird does ruin the natural argument; but in the barnyard, many times these fights will last more than a day. I have always wondered why people don't capture queen bees to fight? There is a murder every few weeks in a hive anyway; seems like there would be those that would try to profit off such violence in nature anywhere they can.

It is curious to me why a person would be perfectly happy with eating veal, yet chastise someone from a completely different upbringing for doing something their family has done for generations. There are countries which nearly the entire population takes pride in the gamefowl industry. I'm not moving there; but I'm not going to tell them how evil they are when I see the murder rate in Chicago over most weekends or the number of babies we terminate each year. So, we elect officials that pass laws to remove these actions of society we don't approve; but sadly there is no way yet to pass our personal virtues to the population (thank God).

BTW, why is this knife even posted here - IT HAS SCREWS HOLDING THE SLABS ON 🤮
 
CF is legal in my country, and so is (regulated) betting. I grew up around game fowl owners and 1) I have never seen anyone hacksaw their bird's spur, 2) what's that third tool for? looks like a groove inletter.
 
hank_rearden said:
CF is legal in my country, and so is (regulated) betting. I grew up around game fowl owners and 1) I have never seen anyone hacksaw their bird's spur, 2) what's that third tool for? looks like a groove inletter.
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I believe it is insinuate to be a tool to cut the spurs off (cutting wax string off gaff bindings). But it wouldn't function for that purpose.
 
knifeswapper said:
The knives are interesting to look at; but I don't expect there were ever anything similar to these used for the purpose they are insinuated. The saw would put way too much pressure on the roosters leg and the seam ripper would never fit in the intended seam. I have seen historic models that appear similar - just not sure they were made for the actual use by someone that understood the function.

As to the cruelty aspect, it is a human continuance of a natural character. Animals fight in nature, many times to the death. Roosters will naturally grow long, sharp spurs. Even yellow leghorns will annihilate their own clutch mates when a good hard rain changes their appearance just a bit. But if I were born a rooster - I would much rather live 2-3 years pampered in a pen or on a tie string with hens wondering by every once in a while than coming out of the millions of eggs a year that supply our food industry via Tyson chicken farms, etc.. Three good months with about 6 square inches of your own space and then have your throat slit for little Billie's nuggets. Might even have a chance, even if it were 1 in 100, that I could spend my life in a brood-pen. Chickens are not taught to fight, just like children are not taught to sin - it is our nature that makes us do the things we do. Having humans affix spurs to shorten the battle for the most accurate bird does ruin the natural argument; but in the barnyard, many times these fights will last more than a day. I have always wondered why people don't capture queen bees to fight? There is a murder every few weeks in a hive anyway; seems like there would be those that would try to profit off such violence in nature anywhere they can.

It is curious to me why a person would be perfectly happy with eating veal, yet chastise someone from a completely different upbringing for doing something their family has done for generations. There are countries which nearly the entire population takes pride in the gamefowl industry. I'm not moving there; but I'm not going to tell them how evil they are when I see the murder rate in Chicago over most weekends or the number of babies we terminate each year. So, we elect officials that pass laws to remove these actions of society we don't approve; but sadly there is no way yet to pass our personal virtues to the population (thank God).

BTW, why is this knife even posted here - IT HAS SCREWS HOLDING THE SLABS ON 🤮
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Wow, your argument is animals fight to survive in nature therefore pitting animals against each other to fight to the death for human entertainment and profit is justified.

Human eat animals therefore pitting animals against each other to fight to the death for human entertainment and profit is justified....abortion, crime...etc.

the mental gymnastics people go thru to justify to themselves doing what is clearly bad.
 
Houlahound said:
Wow, your argument is animals fight to survive in nature therefore pitting animals against each other to fight to the death for human entertainment and profit is justified.

Human eat animals therefore pitting animals against each other to fight to the death for human entertainment and profit is justified....abortion, crime...etc.

the mental gymnastics people go thru to justify to themselves doing what is clearly bad.
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I believe Mike was simply saying not to get on a high horse about something that's perfectly legal in other places... I've had to separate roosters in my flock multiple times. Roosters fight, period. The most aggressive ones at my place wind up in the freezer.

Maybe you could go start an ambiguous thread in gkd "Spurs on roosters, Explain".
 
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