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Incredible.
My first knife here on American soil was a Gerber 22-47162, an assisted - opening blade.
My first knife here on American soil was a Gerber 22-47162, an assisted - opening blade.
New Customs Ruling
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Sheesh, if only in my country we had a lobby this strong...
From July 1st 2010, all locking folders will be illegal to carry in the NL's. We'll just follow the UK's laws. :grumpy: Great to see the USA standing up for their most fundamental rights here, and having success! Believe me, some of you may think all-out Communism has arrived with Obama... ...you just don't know how good you still have it.
From July 1st 2010, all locking folders will be illegal to carry in the NL's. We'll just follow the UK's laws. :grumpy: Great to see the USA standing up for their most fundamental rights here, and having success! Believe me, some of you may think all-out Communism has arrived with Obama... ...you just don't know how good you still have it.
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It is true that the lobbiest helped, BUT what made it happen was hundreds, maybe thousands of people calling, emailing, writing to the Senators and Representatives and demanding something be done.
Your problem is that you have given up your country's right to being to the EU and you are now the sefrs that are spoken of in "The Road to Serfdom"
This effects alot of Bucks!
Manhattan District Attorney Shakes Down Honest Knife Retailers
New Yorkers Being Deprived of Popular Pocket Knives
The New York County (Manhattan) District Attorney's office appears to be engaged in a shakedown of local businesses, forcing them to pay six-figure so-called "contributions" or risk unwarranted criminal penalties, in a move more like that of organized crime than the agency charged with protecting citizens, said a national group representing the rights of Americans who own and use pocket knives.
Knife Rights Chairman, Doug Ritter, said, "the New York County District Attorney, Cyrus Vance, Jr. appears to have targeted legitimate, honest knife dealers, accused them of selling illegal 'gravity knives,' and threatening criminal prosecution if they don't pay up. The so-called "gravity knives" in question appear to be conventional one-handed and assisted-opening knives, which represent 80 percent of the pocket knives sold in the U.S. today." Some of the major retailers have reported agreed to six-figure settlements and have netted the DA millions of dollars.
Knife Rights was instrumental in passing legislation last summer, in response to a misinterpretation of law by U.S Customs and Border Protection, that specifically excepted these common pocket knives used daily by millions of Americans from the definition of a switchblade under the Federal Switchblade Act. The legislation was supported by Customs and was passed by U.S. Congress, with strong bipartisan support, and signed into law by President Obama on October 28, 2009.
Ritter said, "Given the passage of this legislation, the DA is attacking people who sell knives that were clearly defined by Congress as simple pocket knives, legislation that was supported by leading Democratic lawmakers such as Henry Waxman (D-CA), Charles Rangel (D-NY), David Obey (D-WI) and others. This action is not only unethical; it places Mr. Vance at odds with even liberal urban lawmakers and outside the mainstream on this issue."
Among the dozen or so businesses that have reported to have been targeted in New York City are Eastern Mountain Sports, Orvis, Paragon Sports, Lowe's and Home Depot. At least one out-of-state Internet retailer has been targeted. No public release of details has yet been made
The six-figure so-called "contributions" are being made to a "public education fund" controlled by the DA in order to secure "deferred prosecution" agreements to avoid threatened criminal charges. Additional outrageous and over-reaching demands have also apparently been made to avoid prosecution.
Said Ritter, "This appears to be little more than extortion on the part of a District Attorney who appears determined to shake down honest businesses and remove from the New York market common tools used daily by New Yorkers in their homes, in business and while recreating. These are simple pocket knives, legitimate tools used every day by millions of law-abiding Americans."
Knife Rights' attorneys have been in contact with some of these companies and their lawyers. The DA seems primarily interested in bludgeoning these knife dealers into submission. Not all his targets have agreed to terms and Knife Rights is working to protect these retailers and their customers from this outrageous abuse of power.
The businesses shaken down so far have agreed to "cooperate," agreed to onerous terms of dubious merit and agreed to pay substantial so-called "contributions" to avoid further difficulties and risk even more significant defense costs and potential criminal penalties and fines, as unwarranted as they might be. To these corporations and business owners, it appears they view this shakedown by the DA as simply a cost of doing business in New York City. Said Ritter, "we expect to see this sort of corrupt behavior by the government in third-world countries, not in America. New Yorkers and all Americans should be outraged by this behavior."
Knife Rights urges any knife dealer who has already been served by the New York County DA to contact us immediately.
Based on information obtained so far, Knife Rights believes this may be only the first wave of such attacks on knife dealers by this DA, both in New York and elsewhere. We urge any knife dealer who is served papers, arrested or whose stock is seized by the DA to please contact us immediately. Knife Rights is prepared to assist dealers in fighting this reprehensible action by the DA.
Knife Rights is monitoring this situation in New York City vigilantly and will follow-up with more details as we can release them.
Knife Rights may be contacted at: nycity @KnifeRights.org or toll-free: 1-866-889-6268
Manhattan District Attorney Shakes Down Honest Knife Retailers
New Yorkers Being Deprived of Popular Pocket Knives
The New York County (Manhattan) District Attorney's office appears to be engaged in a shakedown of local businesses, forcing them to pay six-figure so-called "contributions" or risk unwarranted criminal penalties, in a move more like that of organized crime than the agency charged with protecting citizens, said a national group representing the rights of Americans who own and use pocket knives.
Knife Rights Chairman, Doug Ritter, said, "the New York County District Attorney, Cyrus Vance, Jr. appears to have targeted legitimate, honest knife dealers, accused them of selling illegal 'gravity knives,' and threatening criminal prosecution if they don't pay up. The so-called "gravity knives" in question appear to be conventional one-handed and assisted-opening knives, which represent 80 percent of the pocket knives sold in the U.S. today." Some of the major retailers have reported agreed to six-figure settlements and have netted the DA millions of dollars.
Knife Rights was instrumental in passing legislation last summer, in response to a misinterpretation of law by U.S Customs and Border Protection, that specifically excepted these common pocket knives used daily by millions of Americans from the definition of a switchblade under the Federal Switchblade Act. The legislation was supported by Customs and was passed by U.S. Congress, with strong bipartisan support, and signed into law by President Obama on October 28, 2009.
Ritter said, "Given the passage of this legislation, the DA is attacking people who sell knives that were clearly defined by Congress as simple pocket knives, legislation that was supported by leading Democratic lawmakers such as Henry Waxman (D-CA), Charles Rangel (D-NY), David Obey (D-WI) and others. This action is not only unethical; it places Mr. Vance at odds with even liberal urban lawmakers and outside the mainstream on this issue."
Among the dozen or so businesses that have reported to have been targeted in New York City are Eastern Mountain Sports, Orvis, Paragon Sports, Lowe's and Home Depot. At least one out-of-state Internet retailer has been targeted. No public release of details has yet been made
The six-figure so-called "contributions" are being made to a "public education fund" controlled by the DA in order to secure "deferred prosecution" agreements to avoid threatened criminal charges. Additional outrageous and over-reaching demands have also apparently been made to avoid prosecution.
Said Ritter, "This appears to be little more than extortion on the part of a District Attorney who appears determined to shake down honest businesses and remove from the New York market common tools used daily by New Yorkers in their homes, in business and while recreating. These are simple pocket knives, legitimate tools used every day by millions of law-abiding Americans."
Knife Rights' attorneys have been in contact with some of these companies and their lawyers. The DA seems primarily interested in bludgeoning these knife dealers into submission. Not all his targets have agreed to terms and Knife Rights is working to protect these retailers and their customers from this outrageous abuse of power.
The businesses shaken down so far have agreed to "cooperate," agreed to onerous terms of dubious merit and agreed to pay substantial so-called "contributions" to avoid further difficulties and risk even more significant defense costs and potential criminal penalties and fines, as unwarranted as they might be. To these corporations and business owners, it appears they view this shakedown by the DA as simply a cost of doing business in New York City. Said Ritter, "we expect to see this sort of corrupt behavior by the government in third-world countries, not in America. New Yorkers and all Americans should be outraged by this behavior."
Knife Rights urges any knife dealer who has already been served by the New York County DA to contact us immediately.
Based on information obtained so far, Knife Rights believes this may be only the first wave of such attacks on knife dealers by this DA, both in New York and elsewhere. We urge any knife dealer who is served papers, arrested or whose stock is seized by the DA to please contact us immediately. Knife Rights is prepared to assist dealers in fighting this reprehensible action by the DA.
Knife Rights is monitoring this situation in New York City vigilantly and will follow-up with more details as we can release them.
Knife Rights may be contacted at: nycity @KnifeRights.org or toll-free: 1-866-889-6268
Here are some pictures...Buck 100s and Avids are in their as switchblades and gravity knives!
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/loc...-knives-at-major-new-york-stores-20100617-apx
http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/loc...-knives-at-major-new-york-stores-20100617-apx
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I have had a very strong feeling that assisted opening folders in the US would soon be classified as switchblades. Especially when some are as fast or faster than an auto. The OD-1 I can open faster than my sons assisted blades and the OD-1 only opens fast by the flip of that little round disc. No springs in the knife at all. It is just by good design that this knife opens so fast.
This is no surprise to me one bit and that Is why I stated in a thread long ago that I thought all these manufactures were playing with fire when they sarted making these assisted folders. Their should be autos and manual folders and nothing in between was my thoughts on this. You spring assisted folders will be under a new law of some kind restricting the sales of them or they may just be added to the auto knife law already existing.
And one person asked if there was anything he could do to help to let him know. The same goes for me. But I fear this is so deep into play already there is no turning back on spring assisted folders. I find them harder to use than flipper knives or the ones that have a knurled part by the pivot screw that you just pull back on. Kershaw Ener-G for example.
This is no surprise to me one bit and that Is why I stated in a thread long ago that I thought all these manufactures were playing with fire when they sarted making these assisted folders. Their should be autos and manual folders and nothing in between was my thoughts on this. You spring assisted folders will be under a new law of some kind restricting the sales of them or they may just be added to the auto knife law already existing.
And one person asked if there was anything he could do to help to let him know. The same goes for me. But I fear this is so deep into play already there is no turning back on spring assisted folders. I find them harder to use than flipper knives or the ones that have a knurled part by the pivot screw that you just pull back on. Kershaw Ener-G for example.
Ditto. If necesssary, perhaps we can come up with a standard letter to be sent to one's senators and congressman to let them know that this sort of "ruling" by some bureaucrat at Customs should not be used to take away our right to carry a folding knife.
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Yeah, the govt. needs to protect us from the innumerable mass killings resulting every day from assisted and one-hand opening knives!
On the other hand, most of the time when I need a cutting blade, I have the object needing cutting in hand, and need a blade I can access with my free hand.
You have my support. I will follow up with my own legislator. I have just moved, so I will register to vote here (Hawaii) to have a voice. While I have never had a switchblade, gravity knife, balisong or similar knife, I carry a lockblade folding knife that I easily open with one hand - without a spring, thumbstud or other device.
The definitions used for dangerous "switchblade" knives are rather ridiculous.
I carry a lockblade kni
The definitions used for dangerous "switchblade" knives are rather ridiculous.
I carry a lockblade kni