New York Knife Co ???? Help

[galvanic1882]

Ok I need your help on this one, thoughts if it’s legit please. I’ve seen this pattern faked with other names mostly hardware brands. I don’t like the fact that the pull for the secondary blade is on the back. Never seen a NY Jack done like this? Thoughts please, thanks Mike

 

[afishhunter]

I'm not an expert on the company or the pattern.
Concerning the "fakes" with hardware store brands, those are contract knives by Camillus, Imperial, Schrade, Colonial, and others. I believe NYKC also contracted to make knives with other "brands" on them.
Jack or other pattern from say Colonial or Case is not a "fake" of the same knife by any other company. They are a pattern that can be/are made by a multitude of others. Nothing proprietary about the design.

I've seen other one end two blade jacks with the secondary nick on the back before. I don't have one, however. Seems a logical thing to do when the secondary is behind the primary.
All my two blade double end knives (a blade pivots at both ends) has a nail nick on each side.

My  guess is it is legitimate. I couldn't find a NYKC tang stamp chart, but I did find pictures of other KYKC tang stamps like yours.

Based on condition, it  might be a post war "reproduction" made by Imperial Schrade when they owned NYKC/Hammer Brand, or a later Queen made for the then owner of the brand, after Schrade went belly up in 2004.
(Imperial-Schrade bought Hammer Brand at the bankruptcy auction when KYKC went belly up after losing the BSA contract for the Official BSA knives in the mid 1930's)

Maybe Primble will correct me. He knows a fair bit about NYKC.

 

[lambertiana]

I’m by no means an expert on this, but the pen behind the master with the pull on the other side really bothers me. The tang on the pen has been buffed hard, possibly to cover up an old blade that has been installed in a new looking handle. Even the nail nicks just don’t look right when blown up. Look at the end of the master nick on the bolster side up close. It looks funny. And the nick on the pen seems funny. Even the master tang looks rough under magnification while the blade looks immaculate. It reminds me of the knives BRL used to post where someone had welded new blades on old tangs.

 

[r8shell]

Not to pile on with another inexpert opinion, but the choil on the main blade looks odd to me. Like someone trying to hide a filed down tang.

 

[galvanic1882]

Thanks guys, I got the knife in a batch to sell for a friend and needed confirmation it was a fake. Too bad it was sold as an original.

Mike

 

[pistonsandgears]

Hows the action on it? Do the backsprings sit even with the handles in open and closed positions? How does it look where the blade meets the back spring in the open position? It looks to me like the frame could possibly be a black box Winchester.

 

[galvanic1882]

Action is great and everything lines up nice. When the main blade is at half stop the spring rides high. The knife is a fake period! Knew it when I first got it but wanted to have confirmation from others. AAPK guys have said the same. There have been many of these with different marks sold as genuine knives through the years.

 

[r8shell]

Action is great and everything lines up nice. When the main blade is at half stop the spring rides high. The knife is a fake period! Knew it when I first got it but wanted to have confirmation from others. AAPK guys have said the same. There have been many of these with different marks sold as genuine knives through the years.

Disappointing, but look on the bright side: you've got a pretty classy beater knife there!

 

[galvanic1882]

The knife is not mine I'm selling it for a for a friend along with others he sent me.