NJ guys, edc..

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Applejacks

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what do you gentlemen use for your edc? Padawan, thanks for the info.

I hope that the Mini Grip is considered legal to edc.
 
I carry one of those swiss army knives (SAK) in Alox. very handy, light, I pry, poke, and what ever with it. It's very politically correct in jersey. I think it's nice to have some tools on a edc knife. I wouldn't think twice about popping a beer open with my SAK. However, I would tear up if I chipped or rolled the blade on a 200 dollar folder. Can't lose with slipjoints.
um, I think the mini grip should be fine though in NJ. However, people here are not cool about knives in general.
 
Ahh, very cool. I am carrying a Wenger Soldier until the arrival of my Mini Grip. SAK's are always classic and reliable. I agree, knives are frowned upon here. Sad really.
 
You gotta stop by one of our NJKCA meetings. Third Sunday of the month, generally. The restaurant we meet at is very cool with our knives.

New Jersey is not the worst state as far as knife carry goes. A little discretion goes a long way everywhere, especially in certain official locations or if you are young.

But we don't have the draconian length regulations of some areas, and you're OK as long as it's appropriate use.
 
The only thing I know about NJ knife laws is the "four finger" rule. This police officer at Mercer County told me once, that he would open a knife and lay it perpendicular across his fingers. If the knife tip goes past all four of his fingers, he is unhappy. Otherwise, it's ok. Now this is a really subjective as people's hand sizes vary. However, i do believe that anything less than 3 inches is "ok". Personally, I would EDC a mini grip. It looks like a very useful pocket knife for everyday peaceful purposes.

I am curious about the "offical" stance of the state about un/concealed carry of sheath and pocket knives. I just want to carry a useful tool day in and day out with out being thought of as a lesser than stand up citzen.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
You gotta stop by one of our NJKCA meetings. Third Sunday of the month, generally. The restaurant we meet at is very cool with our knives.

New Jersey is not the worst state as far as knife carry goes. A little discretion goes a long way everywhere, especially in certain official locations or if you are young.

But we don't have the draconian length regulations of some areas, and you're OK as long as it's appropriate use.
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I would love to come to a meet! Where do you usually meet? I am in Alpine.

Well, I am not heading off to go fish or hunt when I am driving around in casual wear. Thats my biggest concern. Getting in trouble for having it clipped to my belt, when obviously not doing anything outdoorsy.
 
kidwholaughs said:
The only thing I know about NJ knife laws is the "four finger" rule. This police officer at Mercer County told me once, that he would open a knife and lay it perpendicular across his fingers. If the knife tip goes past all four of his fingers, he is unhappy. Otherwise, it's ok. Now this is a really subjective as people's hand sizes vary. However, i do believe that anything less than 3 inches is "ok". Personally, I would EDC a mini grip. It looks like a very useful pocket knife for everyday peaceful purposes.

I am curious about the "offical" stance of the state about un/concealed carry of sheath and pocket knives. I just want to carry a useful tool day in and day out with out being thought of as a lesser than stand up citzen.
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I completely agree with what you are saying. I even went as far as to buy my Mini Grip in yellow handle for to offset any thoughts a cop may have about me carrying for purposes with bad intentions.
 
To the best of my knowledge, the ONLY length restrictions in New Jersey relate to sales to minors, which must be under 5" blade and I believe under 10" overall.

Sure, even if a 10" blade is legal, it's still not appropriate to flicking open at your local diner to spread jam on your toast. :)

Your Mercer County officer may be unhappy if the blade's over 4", but that's just the blades he sees. If you're minding your own business, he doesn't care that you have a knife.

The problem is effectively one of harassment, harassment of knife owners/users. By keeping the rules fluid, society makes it impossible to comply with each jurisdictions tendency to annoy or ignore your legally carried knife. This means less people will bother to carry, and those of us who do, will become more and more unusual.
 
Applejacks said:
I would love to come to a meet! Where do you usually meet? I am in Alpine.

Well, I am not heading off to go fish or hunt when I am driving around in casual wear. Thats my biggest concern. Getting in trouble for having it clipped to my belt, when obviously not doing anything outdoorsy.
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Click on New Jersey Knife Collectors Association in my sig and it will bring you to all the information, where, when, map: Tarantella's in Clark. Next meeting should be Jan 21.

For casual carry, I clip it to my front (tip up) or back pocket (tip down). If it's just a small knife or slipjoint, into a jacket pocket sometimes. Another covert way to carry is inside the waistband, forward of the front pocket. Once you get used to it, it's out of sight, comfortable, and easily retrieved -- as long as it isn't too big.

Lately I've been carrying a Spydie Military in my back pocket.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Click on New Jersey Knife Collectors Association in my sig and it will bring you to all the information, where, when, map: Tarantella's in Clark. Next meeting should be Jan 21.

For casual carry, I clip it to my front (tip up) or back pocket (tip down). If it's just a small knife or slipjoint, into a jacket pocket sometimes. Another covert way to carry is inside the waistband, forward of the front pocket. Once you get used to it, it's out of sight, comfortable, and easily retrieved -- as long as it isn't too big.

Lately I've been carrying a Spydie Military in my back pocket.
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Checking out the link now! Thanks for the invite. I like in front to the belt. I don't think the police well check, but I don't like the thought of them finding something inside my waist band. haha
 
Very tricky, what is a gravity knife. Originally, a knife that you pushed a button and the blade dropped free was a gravity knife. Now jurisdictions are using the term for any knife that the investigating officer can snap the blade out with a hard centrifugal swing.

New York City is busy busting any folding knife with a loose pivot, and Canadian customs confiscates them. What's happening is that they are trying to criminalize one-hand openers by overextending a previous ban to include them.

Let me know if you might be at the January meeting and I'll bring a classic grav knife.
 
This might help. It's basically, what Esav Benyamin said, in more lawyer words. However, i think we are all know about Alex Levin. I always keep my pocket knife in my pockets. Out of sight, out of mind. Personally, I get paranoid when I see a pouch on a guy's belt. I think knife pouches are good for hunting and special occasions. But it does make the "sheeple" uncomfortable. I think the yellow handle is a good idea thoug. Applejacks, if people asks, just tell them that it's a "rescue knife".

New Jersey - Code of Criminal Justice - 2C:39-3 e. Certain
weapons. Any person who knowingly has in his possession
any gravity knife, switchblade knife, dagger, dirk,
stiletto... or razor blades embedded in wood, ballistic
knife, without any explainable lawful purpose, is guilty
of a crime of the fourth degree.
- 2C:39-1 h. "Gravity knife" means any knife which has a
blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof
by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal
force... p. "Switchblade knife" means any knife or similar
device which has blade which opens automatically by hand
pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in
the handle of the knife... u. "Ballistic knife" means any
weapon or other device capable of lethal use and which can
propel a knife blade.
- 2C:39-6. f. Nothing in subsections... shall be construed to
prevent... (2) A person carrying a firearm or a knife in
the woods or fields or upon the waters of this State for
the purpose of hunting, target practice or fishing,
provided that the firearm or knife is legal and
appropriate for hunting or fishing purposes in this State
and he has in his possession a valid hunting license,, or,
with respect to fresh water fishing, a valid fishing
license.
- 2C:39-9. d. Weapons. Any person who manufactures, causes to
be manufactured, transports, ships, sells or disposes of
any weapon including gravity knives, switchblade knives,
daggers, dirks, stilettos... is guilty of a crime of the
fourth degree.
- 2C:39-9.1... Any person who sells any hunting, fishing,
combat or survival knife having a blade length of five
inches or more or an overall length of 10 inches or more
to a person under 18 years of age commits a crime of the
fourth degree...

New Jersey Case Law:
- "Concealment was not a necessary element of the offense of
carrying a dangerous knife." (1973)
- "Concealment of weapon at time of incident constituted
important factor of offense of possession of dangerous
knife." (1971)
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Very tricky, what is a gravity knife. Originally, a knife that you pushed a button and the blade dropped free was a gravity knife. Now jurisdictions are using the term for any knife that the investigating officer can snap the blade out with a hard centrifugal swing.

New York City is busy busting any folding knife with a loose pivot, and Canadian customs confiscates them. What's happening is that they are trying to criminalize one-hand openers by overextending a previous ban to include them.

Let me know if you might be at the January meeting and I'll bring a classic grav knife.
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Yeah, I was getting that same impression as I was reading all the threads I could find. I going to the city often being from north jersey and i guess my best bet is to leave the mini grip at home. thats too bad.

i will definitely let you know. thanks again for the hospitality.
 
kidwholaughs said:
This might help. It's basically, what Esav Benyamin said, in more lawyer words. However, i think we are all know about Alex Levin. I always keep my pocket knife in my pockets. Out of sight, out of mind. Personally, I get paranoid when I see a pouch on a guy's belt. I think knife pouches are good for hunting and special occasions. But it does make the "sheeple" uncomfortable. I think the yellow handle is a good idea thoug. Applejacks, if people asks, just tell them that it's a "rescue knife".
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Thanks. I just read that passage you so kindly typed for me. Thanks. I think that more or less, its up to the police officers discretion the way that is written. I am sure if he wanted to, he could manage to get a grip to flip out so he could call it a gravity knife. I wanted to get a sheath but am having second thoughts at this point. You think even clipping it onto my belt in the front is even a bad idea?

"rescue" knife, I think a Jersey cop would laugh in my face if I tried to call it that. haha
 
It's all good dude. Just wear it and enjoy it. If you are a law abiding guy, there is nothing to worry about. Alot of people in this forum has been doing it all their lives. I proudly carry a pocket everyday and I hope more people would do it. A great place to carry it is in that minture pocket in the front right pocket on jeans. I think anything else besides a pocket carry is kinda risky. If you get found "covertly" carrying something, like a waistband or boots. It would be hard to explain.
 
kidwholaughs said:
It's all good dude. Just wear it and enjoy it. If you are a law abiding guy, there is nothing to worry about. Alot of people in this forum has been doing it all their lives. I proudly carry a pocket everyday and I hope more people would do it. A great place to carry it is in that minture pocket in the front right pocket on jeans. I think anything else besides a pocket carry is kinda risky. If you get found "covertly" carrying something, like a waistband or boots. It would be hard to explain.
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Thanks. I am a clean cut guy just didn't want any hassles. I think I'll take your advice, and keep it in my pocket and off my belt.

Hey, what do you edc?
 
Esav Benyamin said:
You gotta stop by one of our NJKCA meetings. Third Sunday of the month, generally. The restaurant we meet at is very cool with our knives.

New Jersey is not the worst state as far as knife carry goes. A little discretion goes a long way everywhere, especially in certain official locations or if you are young.

But we don't have the draconian length regulations of some areas, and you're OK as long as it's appropriate use.
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you should come down to meet "LaBella" he is a riot!:thumbup:
 
You can find LaBella in a corner. We tie him up and tape his mouth so he won't run riot and get us thrown out. His kid's got a great knife collection, though! :D
 
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