NONTRON old and new

I looked at their webpage, and it looks like they only sell kitchen knives. Do they have a line of folders I missed?
 
I'm a fan of Nontron !!! ... they feel MUCH better in the hand than Opinel IMO ... and I like Opinel too.
I have 3 Nontron slip joints (Violin) in addition to my Nontron friction folders and honestly, I'm disappointed in all 3 of the slip joints (fit & finish), but love the pattern.
Nontron should just stick with what they do best ... friction folders.

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I have bit one Nontron, but it is carried often in the summer. Mine has a sturdier build than an Opinel, but the Opinel has a slicer grind.

Love the ebony version.
 
I bought my first Opinel maybe 15 years ago, and I’ve been a fan ever since. I only recently became aware of Nontron from some posts here. I was intrigued, but hesitated because of the price. I finally decided to pick one up last week, and it just arrived today. I have… mixed feeling about it, so I thought I’d share my thoughts here.

I bought a No. 25 with the clog shaped handle. I was fairly certain this size would be a bit big for my liking, but it was the only one available in carbon steel, which I definitely prefer, so I went for it.

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Pros:

The overall finish feels more refined than an Opinel. The wood is smooth and polished, and the blade has a near-mirror polish. (I don’t actually like polished blades all that much myself, but it does make the knife feel a bit “nicer.”)

Although the No. 25 is a bit large (comparable in size to an Opinel No. 9), it feels slimmer in hand than an Opinel because of the smaller ferrule and tapered handle.

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The knife is also surprisingly comfortable in hand when open. The No. 25 is probably the perfect size in this regard, as it just fits my hand really well.

The action is very smooth (although I think there’s a con in the construction that makes it that way, which I’ll cover in a second), and the blade seems like it’s ground fairly thin. Not Opinel thin, but thin.

Cons:

These first two are (hopefully) just issues with the knife I received. Maybe some of you who are more experienced with Nontron knives can say whether these types of issues are common or not.

The blade on this knife has some pitting on the mark side, deep enough that I can feel it with my fingernail. I wouldn’t consider this a deal breaker (I was planning on carrying this knife and letting patina develop, part of the reason I went for the one model I could find with carbon steel), but for the price it’s a bit irksome, and takes away from the more refined finish I mentioned in the pros.

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The second issue is more bothersome for me, and may prompt me to return this knife and/or exchange it for another. The tip of the blade is both rounded and blunt, and the bevel near the tip on the back side of the blade looks like it was sharpened twice at different angles. Could I fix these things with a bit if sharpening? Sure, but at this price point, I shouldn’t have to.

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This pic is looking down at the edge. You can see from the light reflected just how blunt the tip is.

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I mentioned the smooth action as a pro, but I’m not sure how I feel about the way that they accomplish this. There is a white plastic sleeve that is fitted between the wood of the handle and the tang of the blade at the pivot. It works fine now, but I question how well it’ll hold up long term. It feels like fairly flimsy plastic, and I’d have to think the friction of opening and closing the blade could cause problems over time. (I also wonder when they started doing this, as I can’t imagine this is something that dates back very far or would be found on older knives.)

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My final con is the price and availability. This knife was $89, which makes flaws like the pitting and rounded/blunt tip harder to accept. I was also only able to find these at one US-based retailer. You could order from France, and the prices are a bit less, but the shipping makes the total cost pretty much the same, if not more.

I’m not entirely sure yet what I’m going to do with this knife. I might see if I can exchange it, as I think I might actually like the knife if it weren’t for the issues with the blade (particularly the rounded/blunt tip).
 
I bought my first Opinel maybe 15 years ago, and I’ve been a fan ever since. I only recently became aware of Nontron from some posts here. I was intrigued, but hesitated because of the price. I finally decided to pick one up last week, and it just arrived today. I have… mixed feeling about it, so I thought I’d share my thoughts here.

I bought a No. 25 with the clog shaped handle. I was fairly certain this size would be a bit big for my liking, but it was the only one available in carbon steel, which I definitely prefer, so I went for it.

aeCJT80.jpg


VVLco41.jpg


Pros:

The overall finish feels more refined than an Opinel. The wood is smooth and polished, and the blade has a near-mirror polish. (I don’t actually like polished blades all that much myself, but it does make the knife feel a bit “nicer.”)

Although the No. 25 is a bit large (comparable in size to an Opinel No. 9), it feels slimmer in hand than an Opinel because of the smaller ferrule and tapered handle.

2MEfcYz.jpg


The knife is also surprisingly comfortable in hand when open. The No. 25 is probably the perfect size in this regard, as it just fits my hand really well.

The action is very smooth (although I think there’s a con in the construction that makes it that way, which I’ll cover in a second), and the blade seems like it’s ground fairly thin. Not Opinel thin, but thin.

Cons:

These first two are (hopefully) just issues with the knife I received. Maybe some of you who are more experienced with Nontron knives can say whether these types of issues are common or not.

The blade on this knife has some pitting on the mark side, deep enough that I can feel it with my fingernail. I wouldn’t consider this a deal breaker (I was planning on carrying this knife and letting patina develop, part of the reason I went for the one model I could find with carbon steel), but for the price it’s a bit irksome, and takes away from the more refined finish I mentioned in the pros.

rhCtBMr.jpg


The second issue is more bothersome for me, and may prompt me to return this knife and/or exchange it for another. The tip of the blade is both rounded and blunt, and the bevel near the tip on the back side of the blade looks like it was sharpened twice at different angles. Could I fix these things with a bit if sharpening? Sure, but at this price point, I shouldn’t have to.

wPG4RTb.jpg


CbpBhC1.jpg


This pic is looking down at the edge. You can see from the light reflected just how blunt the tip is.

a7fYWDQ.jpg


I mentioned the smooth action as a pro, but I’m not sure how I feel about the way that they accomplish this. There is a white plastic sleeve that is fitted between the wood of the handle and the tang of the blade at the pivot. It works fine now, but I question how well it’ll hold up long term. It feels like fairly flimsy plastic, and I’d have to think the friction of opening and closing the blade could cause problems over time. (I also wonder when they started doing this, as I can’t imagine this is something that dates back very far or would be found on older knives.)

NZW6HeD.jpg


My final con is the price and availability. This knife was $89, which makes flaws like the pitting and rounded/blunt tip harder to accept. I was also only able to find these at one US-based retailer. You could order from France, and the prices are a bit less, but the shipping makes the total cost pretty much the same, if not more.

I’m not entirely sure yet what I’m going to do with this knife. I might see if I can exchange it, as I think I might actually like the knife if it weren’t for the issues with the blade (particularly the rounded/blunt tip).

$89 for what looks like almost an intentionally rounded/blunted tip would be an immediate return for me. Beautiful knife otherwise. A shame.
 
btb01 btb01 Barrett, return or exchange the knife. You'll never be totally happy with this one. Maybe the vendor can cherry pick one for you.
I have 7 Nontron knives and none are perfect, although a couple are close. The "flaws" aren't show stoppers and in one case, just adds to the "charm" for me.
These aren't state of the art knives. They're made as closely as they might have been made 500yrs ago ... except for any plastic/teflon(?) addition of course.
And there are very VERY few who actually make these knives. At one time as recently as about seven or eight years ago, it was said to be only 12 people.
One artisan from knife start to finish. These aren't production knives in the sense of Opinel but I would imagine there is some sort of production quota.
 
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It looks like these do not have the problem that bothers me about Opinel - the swelling of the wood handle (from moisture) that will make the knife too difficult to open
 
The turned ebony one looks absolutely fantastic.

Man I didn't need another knife to look into, but kinda hard to overlook these!

I really like the opinel gardener I have, but turned ebony is going to be hard to resist if one can be found!

Edit: whew! 71 overseas E sign money things (before shipping) is quite a commitment for this knife. This one will definitely require some thought.
 
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I bought my first Opinel maybe 15 years ago, and I’ve been a fan ever since. I only recently became aware of Nontron from some posts here. I was intrigued, but hesitated because of the price. I finally decided to pick one up last week, and it just arrived today. I have… mixed feeling about it, so I thought I’d share my thoughts here.

I bought a No. 25 with the clog shaped handle. I was fairly certain this size would be a bit big for my liking, but it was the only one available in carbon steel, which I definitely prefer, so I went for it.

aeCJT80.jpg


VVLco41.jpg


Pros:

The overall finish feels more refined than an Opinel. The wood is smooth and polished, and the blade has a near-mirror polish. (I don’t actually like polished blades all that much myself, but it does make the knife feel a bit “nicer.”)

Although the No. 25 is a bit large (comparable in size to an Opinel No. 9), it feels slimmer in hand than an Opinel because of the smaller ferrule and tapered handle.

2MEfcYz.jpg


The knife is also surprisingly comfortable in hand when open. The No. 25 is probably the perfect size in this regard, as it just fits my hand really well.

The action is very smooth (although I think there’s a con in the construction that makes it that way, which I’ll cover in a second), and the blade seems like it’s ground fairly thin. Not Opinel thin, but thin.

Cons:

These first two are (hopefully) just issues with the knife I received. Maybe some of you who are more experienced with Nontron knives can say whether these types of issues are common or not.

The blade on this knife has some pitting on the mark side, deep enough that I can feel it with my fingernail. I wouldn’t consider this a deal breaker (I was planning on carrying this knife and letting patina develop, part of the reason I went for the one model I could find with carbon steel), but for the price it’s a bit irksome, and takes away from the more refined finish I mentioned in the pros.

rhCtBMr.jpg


The second issue is more bothersome for me, and may prompt me to return this knife and/or exchange it for another. The tip of the blade is both rounded and blunt, and the bevel near the tip on the back side of the blade looks like it was sharpened twice at different angles. Could I fix these things with a bit if sharpening? Sure, but at this price point, I shouldn’t have to.

wPG4RTb.jpg


CbpBhC1.jpg


This pic is looking down at the edge. You can see from the light reflected just how blunt the tip is.

a7fYWDQ.jpg


I mentioned the smooth action as a pro, but I’m not sure how I feel about the way that they accomplish this. There is a white plastic sleeve that is fitted between the wood of the handle and the tang of the blade at the pivot. It works fine now, but I question how well it’ll hold up long term. It feels like fairly flimsy plastic, and I’d have to think the friction of opening and closing the blade could cause problems over time. (I also wonder when they started doing this, as I can’t imagine this is something that dates back very far or would be found on older knives.)

NZW6HeD.jpg


My final con is the price and availability. This knife was $89, which makes flaws like the pitting and rounded/blunt tip harder to accept. I was also only able to find these at one US-based retailer. You could order from France, and the prices are a bit less, but the shipping makes the total cost pretty much the same, if not more.

I’m not entirely sure yet what I’m going to do with this knife. I might see if I can exchange it, as I think I might actually like the knife if it weren’t for the issues with the blade (particularly the rounded/blunt tip).

A bit of a follow-up on my recent Nontron purchase. I reached out to the dealer about the rounded/blunt tip. They instructed me to send it back, and they’d look it over and see if they could pick out a better example to send in exchange.

I followed up with them yesterday (the returned knife had arrived over the weekend and I hadn’t heard anything at that point). Here’s the response I got:

Thank you for following up!

The return package was processed today and I just heard from my team. They said that the knife does not appear to have any defects or issues and it meets the quality standards for Nontron. I am going to issue you a refund for this item as we do not think you would be satisfied with an exchange for the same item.

We thank you for your understanding!


Definitely disappointing. Based on photos of the Nontron knives on their own website alone, it’s obvious that a rounded/blunt tip is not the norm. All the knives photographed for the site clearly have sharp, pointy tips.

And because they’ve deemed that knife up standard, I’m sure it’ll go back into inventory and they’ll end up shipping it out to someone else. 🙄
 
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