Numyth Tohil Lighter

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wildmike

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Does anyone have any experience with the Numyth Tohil lighter sold by Goinggear.com?

Or does anyone know of any other evaporation resistant, liquid fuel lighters. Not butane.

I don't smoke or regularly use a lighter....just want one to add an option to my fire kit.
 
I have a Tohil and the peanut lighter in the pics below. Got the peanut lighter on ebay from this guy on 11/20. Got the Tohil on 11/30. I filled each the day I got them and have tried them periodically since. So far both are working fine, though neither have been in the field yet.

The Tohil is a bit larger and feels more solid. It appears to be a quality piece. The peanut is smaller, which is nicer in a way, and also looks to be good quality, but not to the extent that the Tohil does. I don't know what more I can say about them - both work.

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I went ahead and ordered the Tohil...orange just like yours. I was concerned with whether they will lose fuel due to evaporation.

I guess I'll have to just see how it goes. Wish it was windproof as well. Most of the stormproof lighters I've seen are butane, and the best of them seem to have Very mixed reviews. All I want this one for is fire starting when conditions are flat nasty out.
 
wildmike said:
I went ahead and ordered the Tohil...orange just like yours. I was concerned with whether they will lose fuel due to evaporation.

I guess I'll have to just see how it goes. Wish it was windproof as well. Most of the stormproof lighters I've seen are butane, and the best of them seem to have Very mixed reviews. All I want this one for is fire starting when conditions are flat nasty out.
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Hopefully you'll be pleased with it. It still lights 2 months after its one and only filling. I check it every week or two as an informal test. For comparison, the Zippo lit 10 days after I filled it but not at the 17 day mark (the next time I checked it).
 
:cool: I usually do not pay much attention to lighters except always to have one along with a sparking rod and matches. I usually just purchase inexpensive disposal lighters and dispose of them when they start acting up. Recently, though, I have found one that seems good and I welcome any comments.

A brand called 5-Flags (Chinese) IS butane and refillable but seems reliable for my purposes. I do not smoke but I teach science and always need a means of lighting things. I do not see a flint, so I think the button is for a piezeoelectric crystal (spelling?). I has an orange plastic case, a visible fuel monitoring window, and it has a small built-in flashlight with orange light. I have refilled it once and it seems to hold the fuel without loss after 3 weeks in my pocket. 3 1/4 inches long, 1 inch wide, 1/4 inch thick. It cost less than $2 at a local store. Inlive in the tropics, so cold temperatures are not a problem. So far, it seems to be weather resistant. Faiaoga
 
wildmike said:
Does anyone have any experience with the Numyth Tohil lighter sold by Goinggear.com?

Or does anyone know of any other evaporation resistant, liquid fuel lighters. Not butane.

I don't smoke or regularly use a lighter....just want one to add an option to my fire kit.
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I have two sizes of the "Peanut" type lighters from CountyCom and GoingGear. They all have O-ring seals and all have been completely evaporation resistant. I've had the peanut lighters filled for over a year now and they light up when I need them. The Numyth Tohil looks like a very nice piece of gear! Good luck with your choice.

I have totally given up on butane lighters of conventional and piezo ignition after finding that they are totally unreliable in very cold temperatures.

Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
ill second the peanut lighter...I got a super cheap one to try the design and its still full of zippo fuel over a year later :D I don't understand why more folks don't carry and use peanuts, I think they're great.
 
I have been looking at those peanut lighters for a while. I'm a little concerned about its size and smooth finish. Has anyone had problems opening it when it's wet, loss of fine motor skills when your freezing cold? How about concerns about it actually freezing shut when it's gets damp and the temp drops ? I would think the O ring would help prevent but just wondering if anybody experienced any problems in the field.
 
kellom said:
I'm a little concerned about its size and smooth finish. Has anyone had problems opening it when it's wet, loss of fine motor skills when your freezing cold? How about concerns about it actually freezing shut when it's gets damp and the temp drops ? I would think the O ring would help prevent but just wondering if anybody experienced any problems in the field.
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I think that's a valid concern. By the time I get cold enough to need to start a fire, my hands are usually as dexterous as lobster claws. It might be somewhat of a struggle (or maybe even impossible?) to get a little peanut lighter unscrewed if your hands were in bad shape. The top has a split ring through it, so you can get a good grip on that. I guess a wrap of hockey tape around the bottom half would be a good idea.

I can't say I've used mine very often in the woods, especially in winter time, so I don't know about getting it open. A little vaseline on the threads would prevent freeze-up (and provide extra insurance against water), but I don't think it's likely it would freeze closed.

Stay sharp,
desmobob
 
The Tohil has flats machined on it to improve grip.

I received mine and really like it. Glad I didn't go with a smaller peanut lighter as this one is as small as I'd want to go. I have large hands, any smaller would be a problem to open and use.

The way this one is made there is just about zero chance of it freezing shut. If I fell in an arctic river, and didn't get the water off my gear maybe....but then I'd be dead from hypothermia anyway.
 
I just got one yesterday from Going Gear and think the machining is pretty darn nice. I had some difficulty getting the inner piece out so that I could fill it, but with a bit of effort it came out just fine. I'm comparing it with my Zippo and will do some comparisons over the next month or so in regards to fuel evaporation (or lackthereof). I have high hopes because I was really looking into getting away from disposables and need something small, fixable and most of all, dependable. Time will tell...
 
So I've been opening up my Tohil lighter once a week to test fuel consumption/evaporation/leakage or lackthereof. So far so good. It takes a couple flicks to light but it's holding fuel fine so far. My Zippo hasn't run out yet either though.
 
PB Wilson said:
So I've been opening up my Tohil lighter once a week to test fuel consumption/evaporation/leakage or lackthereof. So far so good. It takes a couple flicks to light but it's holding fuel fine so far. My Zippo hasn't run out yet either though.
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My Zippo ran out somewhere between 10 days and 2 weeks. So far my peanut has been good for just over 3 months and the Tohil for just under 3 months.
 
That is why I purchased the Tohil, I use a lighter rarely so I needed one that would hold its fuel charge as long as possible.
 
Testing the Tohil once or twice a week for the last month, it is still going strong.

My zippo used in much the same manner has dried up.
 
Still working on that initial fill back in the first week of February. I'm happy with my purchase.
 
I'm not certain that anyone is particularly interested but after two months (using it once or twice a week) my lighter still works on a single fill. It is fulfilling my need for a long-term safety item in my gear. Not bad at all.

I wonder how long the fuel will last...
 
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