NYC LEGAL? Kershaw Skyline

DrOpPoInT1110

DrOpPoInT1110

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i live near NYC and carry a blade on me at any time possible. i will usually pocket a smaller blade (about 3" or less) and just let it float in my pocket as to not draw attention with a pocket clip. i currently carry a kershaw skyline or a gerber ripstop 1 in the city. i'm not too worried about the ripstop 1 but would the skyline be considered illegal due to its flipper? it can't be opened no matter how hard you fling it without using the flipper itself. any info would be great. thanks!
 
The flipper itself is not illegal, but make very sure it can not be flicked open, and in NYC it can not be visible at all, so NO clip showing....
 
tom19176 said:
The flipper itself is not illegal, but make very sure it can not be flicked open, and in NYC it can not be visible at all, so NO clip showing....
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thanks tom. i carry all of my knives within the pocket (no clip showing) whenever i'm in the city. i heard rumors that a law was passed or trying to be passed that having the clip exposed could be counted as "malicious intent to the public"...so i'm not taking any chances. and it can't be flicked open in any way.
 
For NYC I always ask myself if a particular knife would appear scary to the average citizen. And more importantly,to the average law enforcement officer. 9 times out of 10,the only knife that seems to be mostly acceptable would be a small SAK like a Classic or Rambler. Or even a Leatherman Micra,etc. Anything larger starts heading down the slippery slope of how unfriendly the NYC area is toward personal possession of knives. Larger, non-locking SAKs shouldnt be too much of a problem,but be prepared to have a good,legal,non-weapons possessing excuse for carrying one. I dont want to sound like only SAKs are accepted. But they seem to be the most universally recognized knives that many people find acceptable and non-scary. I personally would not carry the Kershaw skyline you mentioned based on it having a flipper. If a cop is able to use it to flick the knife open,including after numerous failed attempts,then you might find yourself facing weapons possession charges for an otherwise legal knife.
 
tom19176 said:
The flipper itself is not illegal, but make very sure it can not be flicked open, and in NYC it can not be visible at all, so NO clip showing....
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With no clip showing and good concealment of the knife, the likelihood of him running into trouble on a weapons charge in any jurisdiction is just about nil. This is how I carry my folder in Boston. Like NYC, Boston is quite strict regarding knives.
 
You should all move to florida. Weapons laws here rock! Kershaw skyline, kershaw pack rat, glock 17, Kel-Tec PF-9, leatherman juice s2, and streamlight stylus pro. Edc gear is not only a necessity, is our legal right!
 
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DrOpPoInT1110 said:
thanks tom. i carry all of my knives within the pocket (no clip showing) whenever i'm in the city. i heard rumors that a law was passed or trying to be passed that having the clip exposed could be counted as "malicious intent to the public"...so i'm not taking any chances. and it can't be flicked open in any way.
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ETA: hope NYC knife laws have improved a little. I have the sensation they haven't, maybe even gotten worse?
 
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No, if they stop you and find it you will get arrested. The NYPD consider a "gravity knife" to be any knife that can be "flicked" open in any form and locks open. In order to test this, they sometimes will open the blade halfway, hold onto the blade and try to shake it so it fully opens and locks. Yes, it is ridiculous, but that's how they play up there. Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance is possibly the most chronic over reaching and over charging prosecutor in the country, second only to maybe Angela Corey. With the end of stop and frisk, it has maybe gotten a little better, but not by much. You can, however, carry a fully concealed fixed blade with up to a 4" blade.
 
John_0917 said:
No, if they stop you and find it you will get arrested. The NYPD consider a "gravity knife" to be any knife that can be "flicked" open in any form and locks open. In order to test this, they sometimes will open the blade halfway, hold onto the blade and try to shake it so it fully opens and locks. Yes, it is ridiculous, but that's how they play up there. Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance is possibly the most chronic over reaching and over charging prosecutor in the country, second only to maybe Angela Corey. With the end of stop and frisk, it has maybe gotten a little better, but not by much. You can, however, carry a fully concealed fixed blade with up to a 4" blade.
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Really? A concealed fixed blade is ok up to 4 inches? But a gravity knife is an issue? Those guys that make and pass laws up in Manhattan are retarded. And the truth is the population at large is also responsible for this. They keep voting these douche bags into power time and time again. Oh my god. Enough said.
 
Pitor said:
Really? A concealed fixed blade is ok up to 4 inches? But a gravity knife is an issue? Those guys that make and pass laws up in Manhattan are retarded. And the truth is the population at large is also responsible for this. They keep voting these douche bags into power time and time again. Oh my god. Enough said.
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Yup, that's right, the only limit applying to fixed blades is that they can't be of "weapon type design"...of course, they conveniently don't explain that. A "normal" fixed blade, say a Spyderco Enuff (3", leaf blade) should be fine, a fixed karambit would probably be asking for trouble.

As far as "gravity knives", in practice if it folds and locks open then they consider it one. I can't recall the exact number (I'm sure Knife Rights knows), but something like 50,000 people have been arrested on this charge in the last decade. Most people get arrested, some are lucky enough to just get a summons, the standard penalty is up to a $300 fine and 15 days making new friends on Rikers Island.

To add to the absurdity, in NY state, you can legally carry an auto if you have a current hunting or fishing license...facepalm...
 
John_0917 said:
Yup, that's right, the only limit applying to fixed blades is that they can't be of "weapon type design"...of course, they conveniently don't explain that. A "normal" fixed blade, say a Spyderco Enuff (3", leaf blade) should be fine, a fixed karambit would probably be asking for trouble.

As far as "gravity knives", in practice if it folds and locks open then they consider it one. I can't recall the exact number (I'm sure Knife Rights knows), but something like 50,000 people have been arrested on this charge in the last decade. Most people get arrested, some are lucky enough to just get a summons, the standard penalty is up to a $300 fine and 15 days making new friends on Rikers Island.

To add to the absurdity, in NY state, you can legally carry an auto if you have a current hunting or fishing license...facepalm...
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Just.... Wow... NYC just went full retard on my book. Well done liberals, well done indeed. Clap Clap Clap....
 
John your right but remember the NYC law states that the blade has to be **** Less Than 4 inches*****

Anything 4 inches and above is a no no unless you fall under one of those exempted catagories (translate not your average person.)
 
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