O1 tool steel for fine slicing geometry.

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What experience has everybody had with O1 tool steel used for thin slicers eg, kitchen knives, craft knives, razor / utility blades etc?
I used to be under the impression that O1 was used mainly for "tough" blades, I see lots of O1 knives floating around running at 58 HRC (Or close to it)
After playing around with O1 for a couple of months making very thin knives out of 1.5mm O1 stock, I think it's perfectly suited for higher HRC thin knives, more so than thicker choppers and chunky knives. I was surprized at how good the edge stability was at high HRC and it wasn't acting brittle either. I've now switched over all of my simple pure carbon knives to O1 running at around 62+ HRC.
After doing research I decided O1 is best suited to be ran at 62 HRC, because it is almost as tough I think if I remember right, you only lose 5% toughness from being ran at 57 HRC, so you get all of those extra HRC hardness points at only a cost of 5% reduced toughness. I didn't expect O1 to be able to hold such a good edge at low angles. O1 is very capable at 62 HRC wearing ridiculously shallow grinds,
Do any of you make Japanese style kitchen knives or anything else with no secondary bevels with O1? I would like to see some of the makers post pictures of their O1 thin slicey blades.
Cheers.
 
I do most of my carbon steel kitchen knives in the very similar O2 Steel, you can check them out at peu.net

Pablo
Thanks, I will take a look, I've never used O2 before.
I just checked your shop, you make a lot of different knives, I like your knife and forks as well. Nice work there.
 
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O1 takes a nice acute edge angle, unlike some steels with more carbides.
However it is NOT among the tougher of the simpler carbon steels according to Larrin's extensive testing.
You should be able to run 1084, 15N20, 52100, and 80CrV2 much harder - or get substantially greater toughness at a given hardness, which translates to better edge stability under most conditions. (don't get me wrong, I think O1 makes a fine blade!) Depends what you want and what you have access to.


with 1084 added:
 
O1 takes a nice acute edge angle, unlike some steels with more carbides.
However it is NOT among the tougher of the simpler carbon steels according to Larrin's extensive testing.
You should be able to run 1084, 15N20, 52100, and 80CrV2 much harder - or get substantially greater toughness at a given hardness, which translates to better edge stability under most conditions. (don't get me wrong, I think O1 makes a fine blade!) Depends what you want and what you have access to.


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I actually have a bunch of 15N20 sitting around, I like it, I don't really have access to 1084 it's not that commonly used over here. we have a bunch of 1095 which is what I normally use as my go to simple carbon. Some W2 around, only in 6mm thickness though, good for maybe forging japanese tanto, a little too thick for the thin 1.5mm and 2mm slicers I'm making.
I like the 15N20, it seems to like being ran hard and thin. The guy I get it off only sells it in annoyingly short billets for some reason (15cm). We had an old Sheffield steel factory shut down recently called Saxon, they produced some of the best O1 over here, and they precision ground it to all sizes, even down to 1mm or 8mm in all length. All of their closing down stock is currently floating around over here. So I'm snapping up tons of good cheap O1 from Saxons closure.
I think the O1 makes a terrific slicer at low edge geometry. When I ran the O1 at 64 HRC is was much more brittle than at 62 HRC. I think 62 HRC is the sweet spot for O1 with maximum hardness with minimum loss of toughness.
 
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