Old Chinese Army motorcycle & side car

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Haven't got this yet. In Libertyville IL. Need to get it shipped to Georgia. Anyone know a bike shipper that takes sidecars? Needs some tires. Would not want to ride it 714 miles. Youch!

Will give a review when she gets here and some better pictures. Just wanted to share my excitement with friends in the Cantina!

Do you think that the guy on the far right looks like Jackie Chan?
[edited] I think that they are girls.....

A little info on the scoot

"History of the 1938 BMW R71, BMW R75, Ural and Chinese Army ChangJiang 750 Motorcycle with Sidecar

In the early 1930's, BMW corporation licensed a Russian company named Uralmoto Zavod in Russian to producing BMW motorcycles sidecar. This is the work around solution for Germany to meet the terms of surrender imposed under the "Treaty of Versailles" at the end of the World War I which prohibited Germany from any form of military vehicle production, including large capacity motorcycles and sidecars.

BMW motorcycle recognized by the world that they offered unprecedented mobility, performance and reliability on the battle field at that time. Even the American's Harley-Davidson was willing to copy the BMW motorcycle at that time. This resulted in the Harley-Davidson XA model which also featured a flat twin engine.

"A Bridge Too Far" is also a great W.W.II. movie, you can see the BMW R71/R75 motorcycle with sidecar in action. Please rent a tape or DVD if you did not watch it.

However, at that time (1938 to 1939), German only shares the BMW R71 classical motorcycle with Russian, they keep the BMW R75 secrets for themselves during the World War II. After the Germany surrender at the end of WWII, Russian took all the BMW motorcycle blueprints & tool sets and ship the few remaining BMW R75 motorcycles and all the production parts left at the factory back to Russian. The BMW R75 motorcycle OHV engine and dual wheels drive system technology was also then apparently used to create the relatively advanced Russian "Ural" and "Dnepr" models. It is a open secrets that USA took the rock scientists back to USA and Russian took the blueprints from German.

In 1950's, People's Liberation Army (PLA) of China looking for a replacement for the army motorcycles. By that time at USSR, the side-valve's BMW motorcycle R71 model had become obsolete, so the old BMW motorcycle R71 manufacture was offer to China as an aid, that is a common practices to exchange goods between the communist countries at the early stage of the cold war. The Chinese paid back tons of apples and eggs for the production line.

The BMW R71 was a perfect solution for Chinese army mobilize at farm roads in China at that time. Chinese rename it to "Chang Jiang" after the longest river in China (3rd longest river in the world) and entered production during 1957 at the "China NanChang Aircraft Manufacturing Company", they also made those fly CJ 5 and CJ 6 in the same company at that time. The early CJ 6 airplane is the best in its class in the world, it is also called "Warbird" by W.W.II pilots. It is so reliable that there are no fatal incident cause by the quality of its own sine 1958 all over the world on a base of more than 2000 of them were produced. And yes, it is still in production too.

Chinese mess produced Chang Jiang 750 classical motorcycle by millions in numbers since then. Because those motorcycles were manufactured side by side in the same factory with military CJ 6 airplanes, heavy 105 mm artillery and 56, 57, 62 model battle tanks in the heart land (JianXi providence) of China. Those BMW R71 classical motorcycle are very sturdy and work very well for modern age restorations even after so many years.

CJ6 Clip K8 Jet Clip

Chinese did developed a few more new models from the original BMW R71 since, however they also keep produce the original BMW R71 until today. Thus Chang Jiang 750 classical motorcycle is the only earliest Vintage Sidecar Motorcycle frozen in time and still in production in the whole world today! Because the regular Chinese Army no longer use Chang Jiang 750 sidecar motorcycle anymore (only the local PLA and police still use them), how long the Chang Jiang 750 motorbikes will remind in production will determined by the history itself.
 
silenthunterstudios said:
Got a truck? Take it and a trailer out, and make a road trip of it.

Well, I'd like that, but it is 8'4" long and 5''2" wide. Weighs 794 pounds. Guess a 6x10 landscape trailer would do the job. My "Hey Astro" van would pull it.
 
Nice grab. I've been lookin' at those Urals myself.

Field report when it gets here, please.

Those to look like ladies.

Brian
 
I believe Satori has the same penchant for self-abuse as you do, Bill. You might compare notes. I think he has done some Ural investigation.

Get a wiring diagram with the bike, or for the bike. From what I understand, there is a small chance you may need it.

I love funky ole motorcycles. I hope you have a wonderful time with it.

Be well and safe.


Oh, Motorraad (sp?) in St. Louis, MO, does a lot of restoration and BMW work. You might ask them about local shippers, as well.

BMW Motorrad of St. Louis
2121 Adam Executive Drive
St Louis, MO 63146
Phone: 314-991-8777
www.bmwstl.com
 
What does that thing weigh? I may be able to help you.

What type of dimension box would it fit in? Size trailer would it fit on?

T
 
Terry Newton said:
What does that thing weigh? I may be able to help you.

What type of dimension box would it fit in? Size trailer would it fit on?

T

Terry,

It is 8'4" long x 5'2" wide x 3' 5" high. weighs 800 pounds.

What could you do? PM me.
 
Kismet said:
I believe Satori has the same penchant for self-abuse as you do, Bill. You might compare notes. I think he has done some Ural investigation.

"Self-abuse" seems to sum it up, if the reports are correct. I'm going into this with the expectation that I'll be carrying a full toolbox and a cell phone on board.

Hey, I drive a VW. What can I say? I enjoy quirky vehicles. :)

Let me know how this turns out for you, Bill. It's going to be a while before I have the money saved up for a Ural, but it's a matter of when, not if.
 
Satori said:
"Self-abuse" seems to sum it up, if the reports are correct. I'm going into this with the expectation that I'll be carrying a full toolbox and a cell phone on board.

Hey, I drive a VW. What can I say? I enjoy quirky vehicles. :)

Negotiating to get this here by July 10th, will post some better pics.

Let me know how this turns out for you, Bill. It's going to be a while before I have the money saved up for a Ural, but it's a matter of when, not if.

"Quirky" is a good word. Having had quirky vehicles all my life, this should be no exception!

My first big quirky bike was a 1954 Vincent Black Shadow belch fire V-twin 1000cc. Went out of production in 1956, I believe, because so many owners were killed in crashes on them. Bad combination of brute power and 1950s English roads.

Well, I got a cell phone and a tool box and a manual written in Chinese. Toss in a khuk and a Glock and I should be ready for most anything in Georgia (that 's Atlanta Ga, not Russia Georgia.)

The prototype of this bike apparently was a 1930's BMW that went from Germany to Russia to China. "Frozen in time." I like that.

Besdides the "Bloody Vin" I have had an array of Triumph motorcycles, Jaguars, MGs, and a few other British vehicles. Adventure onward! Maybe I am ready for the Chang Jiang.

As some of you know, I collect old chinese swords. This bike was caught by one of my search engines looking for a chinese "Jian" sword.

Gotta run, wnat to check Josh's "Goggles" thread. Gonna need, let's see.....4 pair. One for me, one for Anne and two for the dogs.

Specs say that this bike and sidecar will carry three people and 100kg payload. Guess that should let me carry a mechanic and his tools.
 
Satori- I hear you. It's when, not if.

But I haven't decided if I need the extra driveline. Maybe a Chang, tho.

Brian
 
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