Old fashioned goodness, Dietz Lanterns

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Granted, they aren't nearly as bright as modern electric or pressurized gas lanterns that use mantles. Since I really don't plan on doing field surgery or needlepoint, I can live with that. What they are, is a very safe, efficient, and economical alternative to candles as emergency lighting during power outages, et cetera. That's something near and dear to an old Floridian's heart. Just saw on the news the other day about a family, including several small children, killed in a fire started by a candle. They'd been without electricity for whatever reason, and had been using candles for light. Candles are crap for that, save 'em for setting a romantic mood sometime, and keep kids/pets away from the dayumed things.

Back to the lanterns. Did I mention they're safe? Because the flame is fully enclosed in glass and steel, there's far less chance of igniting your drapes, etc., or having "Fluffy" get too close and fill the house with the unmistakable aroma of singed cat. And, these style lanterns (cold draft, tubular) are the only kerosene/oil lamps I know of that are actually designed to self extinguish if tipped over (no joke, they really do).

Did I mention they're efficient and economical? My smallest Dietz, a "Comet" (picture below), is only 8 1/2" tall, puts out the same amount of light as three candles burning simultaneously, and will burn for 15 continuous hours on 6 ounces of cheap kerosene. And, I've thoroughly tested the little devil for reliability. Wind, rain, ha, nothing short of a strong thunderstorm will put it out. Try that with a candle, it'll be a short test. ;)

Here's a little blue Comet, like the one I've been talking about (it travels about with me, while my big fellers do house duty)

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Why all this talk of "hurricane lanterns"? Duh, it's hurricane season ain't it? There's a rather bothersome tendency (to me at least) for folks to scramble for the latest hi-tech, state of the art, gizmos, when technology that's served well for more than a century will still reliably get the job done today.

Want a simple, sturdy, inexpensive, but infinitely reliable, "old school" lantern to stash with your disaster preparedness gear? Here's two excellent sources for 'em; http://www.lanternnet.com/ :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: (yes indeed, that's three thumbs up, superb website) ~and~ www.lehmans.com a company many of you will already no doubt be familiar with.

Git 'r done, and give the messy, inefficient, and just plain dangerous, candles to somebody you don't like. They'll marvel at your generosity. ;) :D

Sarge

edited to add: The genuine Dietz lanterns may cost a few bucks more than the cheap imitations that are out there, but having already gone that route, I can tell you in earnest, there's a very noticeable difference that's well worth the few extra bucks

another added: For outdoor use, these things will burn quite well on Citronella oil (to help discourage skeeters). I was in Homestead, Florida, for Hurricane Andrew. Dayumed thing hit us in August, and no power meant no AC, not even a fan. It was unbearably hot and humid, and the dadburn skeeter's just added to folks' misery.
 
Don't these lamps put out poisen in the air? Oil lamps are safer, I thought.

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munk
 
munk said:
Don't these lamps put out poisen in the air? Oil lamps are safer, I thought.

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munk


Valid question, but no, they're not a problem if burning clear kerosene or lamp oil (I wouldn't use Citronella oil indoors though). Every bit as safe as any oil lamp out there, actually safer, since most "table" lamps operate on the open chimney, "hot blast" principle, and will not self extinguish if tipped over.

Sarge
 
Sylvrfalcn said:
Valid question, but no, they're not a problem if burning clear kerosene or lamp oil (I wouldn't use Citronella oil indoors though). Every bit as safe as any oil lamp out there, actually safer, since most "table" lamps operate on the open chimney, "hot blast" principle, and will not self extinguish if tipped over.

Sarge


Still, I'm not an expert, so I wouldn't expect y'all to take my word for it. Here's what the experts say;

QUESTION 6: How safe are tubular lanterns? Can I use them indoors?

ANSWER: Contrary to Hollywood propaganda, tubular lanterns are infinitely safer than any other non-electric artificial light source. If a tubular lantern is tipped over, the balanced draft cuts off the air supply to the burner and extinguishes the flame within seconds. With the advent of modern lamp oil and synthetic kerosene, both Hot Blast and Cold Blast lanterns are well suited for indoor use in ventilated areas. Since the design of a Hot Blast lantern recirculates spent air to the burner for more complete combustion, it has a slight edge over the Cold Blast Design, and a 10% greater efficiency rating. For light output however, cold blast lanterns remain the best choice.
Copyright © 1997 - 2004 W.T. Kirkman All Rights Reserved


Sarge
 
Sarge,

I have one exactly like the one in the pic.

Have used the h*ll out of it camping, and also here when we have power outages. Less tempermental than a coleman.
 
Sylvrfalcn said:
Want a simple, sturdy, inexpensive, but infinitely reliable, "old school" lantern to stash with your disaster preparedness gear? Here's two excellent sources for 'em; http://www.lanternnet.com/ :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: (yes indeed, that's three thumbs up, superb website) ~and~ www.lehmans.com a company many of you will already no doubt be familiar with.


Nice site, but not as nice as it used to be. To see all of the past renditions go to:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lanternnet.com/

This site is good for a lot of "lost" or once existant sites also.

:thumbup: :thumbup:
 
Neat! Thanks Sarge. I just have 2 coleman propane lanterns stashed, and 2 electrics. One big one that runs on 8 D cells and a smaller waterproof one that runs on 6 C cells.

My Dad always had Aladdin Kerosene lanterns? Very pretty things, but have no idea how they compare to these. I kind of stuck with propane, and have 30 of the small canisters stashed and 2 of the big (20 lb?) tanks with tees I can use for a cook stove and light simultaneously. I know from experience the Colemans propanes are fairly delicate though. I'll bet Coleman makes more from replacement globes than they do from the lanterns!

I do have emergency candles throughout the house, along with several oil lanterns, but the candles are in glass globes for fire protection. The lamp oil is kind of messy though, and I wouldn't take any of them outside.

I really like the looks of these. Looks like a 5 gallon Blitz can of kerosene would be enough to keep you going for a long time.

Thanks very much for the info and link.

Norm
 
The $9.95 price tag for the smaller ones seems extremely reasonable for such a thing. Am I missing anything?

The Jetta/rent combination are going to wipe me out until next payday but there'll be a few double shifts on that check...perhaps a brass Monarch is in my future? I never did trust these damned oil lamps in the first place. I've been looking for an excuse to trade them out for something better.

Good stuff as always, Sarge.
 
Dave Rishar said:
The $9.95 price tag for the smaller ones seems extremely reasonable for such a thing. Am I missing anything?
The Jetta/rent combination are going to wipe me out until next payday but there'll be a few double shifts on that check...perhaps a brass Monarch is in my future? I never did trust these damned oil lamps in the first place. I've been looking for an excuse to trade them out for something better.

Good stuff as always, Sarge.

You ain't missing nuthin' Dave, these things are alot of bang for the buck. A lantern that's roughly the same size/shape as the Comet can be purchased at K-Mart under the "Lamplight Farms" trademark for a mere $4.95. They're okay indoors, but don't bother with them silly things if you plan on using it outside. I set one side by side with my Comet on a windy night, and the difference in performance was remarkable. The little Comet was unperturbed and kept up a nice, steady flame, with very little flicker. The inferior lantern flickered wildly, and threatened to go completely out if I didn't keep the wick turned up so high as to produce smoking. As in most everything else, you get what you pay for.

Brass Monarch? Okay, if you say so, but that's a hot blast style that only puts out five candlepower, and it's, uh, "pricey". Check out the D-Lite, it's definitely a butt kicker, just over a foot tall (13 1/2"), puts out 12-14 candlepower, has a 27 hour burn time, and a nicely designed globe with wide openings top and bottom so it's easy to clean. All that for $15.95, what a deal. Besides, the money you save can go towards all those important "B's", like beer, bullets, bait, beans, bacon, and let's not forget, Yangdu's Best Buys. ;)

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And, you can get the D-lite in sexy black finish with brass trim for only three bucks extra. :cool:

Sarge
 
Got a Dietz and the best thing, to me, is the variety of fuel you can put in 'em.

I remember the clean candle lamp oil, you could burn the thing in the house; citronella and reg. lamp oil made a smell (well, duh :D ) you wouldn't want in the house.

These things were at their heyday right before gas/electric and are at the top of the food chain, design-wise.

Sad to see yet another old American name being made in China; also there are a lot of crap-quality lanterns out there, get a good one.

And my silver Dietz rusted pretty good; my fault I guess but a painted one or brass one may be the way to go.


Mike
 
Another Deitz user here, I have several of them, Monarch pictured here, the D-Lite, Hurricane, and another similar in size to Sarge's Comet. All good lamps for the price.
 
Cool thread. We use lanterns like these during hurricanes. Or... I should say, we used to when I was a boy. Nowadays I've got two that just decorate the mantle.
 
A couple years ago I converted over to the W.T.K. galvanized version of the Dietz #80 (w/frosted globe) and it was a good move. Prior to that I was using pressure lanterns but got tired of constantly filling them, listening to them HISSSSSS and smelling lantern exhaust in the tent. I also got one of their Watchman models (galvanized) with a red globe that burns on low as a night light.

The cheap lantern oil at Walmart burns pretty much smoke & odor free, but when really strapped for bucks you can use the Kerosene from Fleet Farm that is only a few bucks a gallon at the pump. Don't believe I'll ever use a Coleman lantern again.
 
They seem like something worth looking into . I have to admit I like the colemans for their light output . I like to read sometimes while camping . ( Go figure) I need a clear unwavering light to do so .

I do find the fragile mantles a pain in the butt .
 
Have a couple of Coleman propane lanterns, good light output but noisy and produce a lot of heat. Use them when I need a lot of light. Dietz are great. Use the clear lamp oil in the house. A good compromise are the Aladdin lamps. More light output than the Dietz, but use kerosene or lamp oil. But I think Sarge is especially right about outdoors, the Dietz are the way to go.One of those simple timeless designs. A good and timely thread Sarge. Thanks.
Terry

45-70,
They make plastic storage/carry cases for most lanterns.
 
Love oil lanterns. Not many electrical outlets in my ancient old house, so such a lantern is my bedside reading light. Throws a lovely light on the spouse too!
 
45-70 said:
Look nice.

How do you all store and transport them?

I wrap a folded bath towel around the whole thing (covering the globe part), tie it around with some cord and throw it behind the seat of the truck. You have to keep it right side up to prevent oil from leaking out, but there is no mantle to break.

Also, I have been using a micro-torch zippo insert to light these things and it works real well - no need for stick matches to reach the wick.
 
I plan to make a light wooden crate out of aspen or poplar for my Comet, but I suppose a hasty field expedient might be to roll a sheet of cardboard into a cylinder that the lantern would slide into snugly. A bit of duct tape, and it's roll and go. :D

Sarge
 
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