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"Old Knives"

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by VCM3, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    That's a real beauty!!!
     
  2. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    "Krusius Brothers" was another high-end German cutlery company. Certainly not as prevalent as Henckels or Boker in the United States, they did make some exceptional knives.
    Here is a stag handled lockback folder from the early 1900s.

    BF German Krusius Lockback .jpg
     
  3. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Wow! Herder your knives are in exceptional condition and a pleasure to see!
     
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  4. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Galvanic - I certainly didn't get my knickers in a twist by any means - it was more a matter of timing as I was literally thinking the other day about the more popularity of collecting the American Cutlers compared to the Early German, and I thought I would just bring it up for a discussion and thoughts.
    Collecting is a very personal thing in taste, and I for one love sharing and hearing about knife topics.

    I appreciate comments on what people see in knives - good knives - and wanted a good discussion on why they see this - but no body feels the need to explore this? about what they see in the make of the knife etc and share good commentary discussion with photos to make it really interesting -thats ok.
     
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  5. kai76

    kai76 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 5, 2009
    @herder Thank you for the nice words. The whittler sure does check all the boxes for me and so does your Krusius brothers lockback! Killer stag on it and in amazing condition to boot, what a knife! I really enjoy looking at your collection of great old German knives and I must admit it had me go hunting for them and found the Tyler stag whittler. I now see why you love the old German knives, I see the light!! @Campbellclanman Duncan, I wonder myself why the American knives are more popular with collectors. Maybe there’s just more of them available here in the U.S.? Majority of my knives are American and have only a handful of German knives but I see that changing! I don’t have much experience with German knives and wish I could contribute more but from seeing all the great old German knives on here, I can say they are equal in quality with the early American knives. After all, haven’t the Germans been making knives longer than Americans? One thing I do know is that with less old German knife collectors around, the more knives will be available to folks who collect them and also at slightly more affordable prices compared to American made knives.:)
     
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  6. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    I was prejudiced against German cutlery for many years, and could list what I didn't like about it!! But as my collecting matured, I grew to appreciate the pluses and benefits of German cutlery!! It's true it often has features and appearances that are unfamiliar to Sheffield/American collectors and lovers. But the consistent sturdiness and usefulness grow on you if you let it, and many I can now view as stellar examples of the useful art!!!
     
  7. Mike Robuck

    Mike Robuck Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Sorry for the long post. I'm fortunate to count both Mike (Galvanic) and Duncan among my best knife friends. Both share a passion for collecting and learning about old knives.

    To corrupt an old phrase: "There's a pocket (or collection) for every knife brand out there." I don't collect switchblades but if I ever came across a large collection I would love for the collector to teach me about them.

    I started collecting Henckels because I knew very little about Case knives and I had heard there were a lot Case counterfeits, and because I used Henckels kitchen knives in delis, restaurant kitchens and butcher shops. (Still have them and use them.) But I started out collecting the red-bone handled knives that weren't made by Henckels.

    I think the early German knives are among the best out there, but Sheffield and American companies do seem to get top billing from most collectors. There's a lot to learn about German knife brands, that's for sure.
    From the 200 year anniversary book:
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    I've tried for years to get good pics of this knife. Maybe I will live long enough!
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  8. JJ Cahill

    JJ Cahill Basic Member Basic Member

    307
    Jun 10, 2018
    Outstanding book and especially the knife, Mike!!! Germany was really at their artistic and intellectual zenith just prior to the 1930's!
     
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  9. lambertiana

    lambertiana Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    That Herder is a gem. Do you have pictures with the blades and pull outs visible?
     
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  10. Misplaced Hillbilly

    Misplaced Hillbilly Gold Member Gold Member

    May 16, 2018
    Thanks! Looking at the other stag Henckels everyone has posted,I've come to believe they were great at picking good pieces. Seem to be cut and fitted so well that there is very little shaping to fit the bolsters. That leaves a cover that is almost all bark. I know with this particular knife I got it in an pawn shop for not much money,and was very pleased with the stag. I carried it to my truck clenched in my fist like I was afraid someone was going to take it back. Lol. I didn't know anything about the pattern or maker, and immediately came to the porch for information. Sometimes it still amazes me how much I have learned about traditional knives in just a year, and how much more I dont know. Thats whay I love this thread, the history of it all just fascinates me.
     
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  11. Mike Robuck

    Mike Robuck Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Thanks. Lots of great factory pics in that book.
    I also like how the Henckels bark stag goes to the edges. Some great German knife pics over the past few pages!
     
  12. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Great discussion everyone, Charlie- I would love to hear one day your list of what you didn't like - as that is exactly what I want to hear and explore etc because that would open my eyes to what you already know and see - if that makes sense.
    I do realise that listing this will most probably be taken the wrong way by someone so I could see a person stepping aside rather than to discuss to avoid such things from happening.

    I would like to point out that I do love the early American knives too- believe me and have much to learn, as I do with all of the Cutlery firms out there - hence me poking for information, I often see a mid to later 20th century German knife and think mmm yeah ok- take or leave that one- but can say the same about a the same era of American Cutlers as well, and a good 80% of my collection is Good Ol American Knives!

    I see on the other hand some many German Knives and think Wow! - as I do with many American and Sheffield Knives!

    Hillbilly - I liked your knives you posted and know first hand what you are saying about the Stag and build on those Whittler beasts.

    Thanks for posting those pics Mike - I can honestly say never have I handled such a beautiful Knife- and to be honest I would feel awkward to do so without gloves- I remember handling a great guys Knives and I was scared to whole time because of the respect I had for him and his Knives.

    Imagine walking into that Henckels shop! ( Duncan turning to his Wife once he entered that shop - "Honey Im going to be here a while - Here's the Car keys I cant make you wait this long I will grab a taxi :D ..." )
     
  13. galvanic1882

    galvanic1882 Gold Member Gold Member

    614
    Sep 13, 2007
    My twisted knickers comment was a joke to Herder in response to his post to me. Please forgive me if I offended anyone with that comment, Mike
     
  14. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    So, your'e saying that you don't like German knives AND you wear knickers??? :) :)
    All in good fun my friend!!!

    Lambertiana, I'll take a picture of the Herder with some blades open.

    Mike R., Nice Henckels pictures.
     
  15. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    No offence taken Galvanic :) :thumbsup:

    ( it made more German Knives come out :thumbsup: )

    Yes that picture would be fantastic,
    to see more of that knife would be a treat!

    Mikes comment about the Bark being so thin and right to the edge is so true and a pleasure to see - also too in the early Sheffield’s- they knew how to make ‘me didn’t they.
     
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  16. Mike Robuck

    Mike Robuck Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Thanks guys. Looking forward to more Herder by Herder pics. Some more Henckels stag:

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  17. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Isnt it amazing when one thinks that they just may be getting somewhere with their collection- and then Mike, Herder, Charlie etc go and post photo's of stunning examples - like this^^ :)
    Mike- Those two are extremely kind to the Eye my friend - Wow!
     
  18. Mike Robuck

    Mike Robuck Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Duncan, from the looks of it, you are doing quite well with Henckels/German knives. And that doesn't even begin to account for all of the other fine knives you have in your collection!
     
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  19. Augie

    Augie Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 23, 2014
    Picked up an old Russell swayback jack, not as common as the Barlows, thinking tang stamp puts it 1874 to 1895. Russell brought in Sheffield cutlers and you can see a Sheffield influence in this knife.


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  20. JJ Cahill

    JJ Cahill Basic Member Basic Member

    307
    Jun 10, 2018
    That Russell is an absolute gem, Augie! It certainly must be quite rare!:thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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