Opinion on multi-tool knifes

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fcap1996

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Why dose every good Multi tool have to have a knife? (excluding your standards Swiss Army knife) I feel that most people who carry a multi tool every day usually have a main blade they carry; I personally carry two. I do not need another knife on my multi tool I would much rather for that spot to have a tool I don't already carry. I own multiple Leathermans and multiple Gerbers. I never use the knife on them because I am wearing a neck knife and usually have my zero-tolerance in my pocket alongside my multi tool so why can't Leatherman, Gerber, Sog make like a surge, filk, power lock without a knife!! What's your opinion on this?
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Hey FC. I'm guessing that since most people don't carry a knife, most people who use an MT also don't carry a knife. We tend to think that everyone is as groovy as BF members, but sadly that is not the case. The MT makers obviously think that a blade should be integrated in most MTs. Even though I carry a folding knife, I like having that extra blade on the MT. Just my take. Rock on!
 
powernoodle said:
Hey FC. I'm guessing that since most people don't carry a knife, most people who use an MT also don't carry a knife. We tend to think that everyone is as groovy as BF members, but sadly that is not the case. The MT makers obviously think that a blade should be integrated in most MTs. Even though I carry a folding knife, I like having that extra blade on the MT. Just my take. Rock on!
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Me, too, and also good for those times you can only take the multitool.

"Groovy?" :rolleyes: Fab way to put it. :)
 
Well, first off, most people these days don't carry a knife.

Look where you are, you're on a knife forum. People here are the 1% or less of society that goes obsessive over knives. We're the vast minority of the populace at large. Even backpackers din't carry much beyond a little Vicorinox classic or Leatherman squirt.

As for small mulitools with a knife blade, it makes very good sense. They give you a knife blade very capable of cutting open a UPS package, cutting some twine or a piece of rope, plastic blister packaging. You may carry a neck knife, but I'll bet you 500 bucks that you can line up the next hundred people you pass on the street and never find a neck knife or any other dedicated knife. Neck knives and such are the relm of the dedicated knife nut, and businesses can't stay in business catering to the 1% of the populace.

Victorinox like Leatherman, has retained it's spot as the worlds largest knife company by making knives that appeal to the masses. LIke Tim Leatherman, they sell tot he everyman. The fact that the mulitool makers, who do tons of market surveys to gauge the public, put the knife blade on the multitools, tells us that they are on the right track for the sales to the human race that are not dedicated knife nuts. And even though I am a knife nut, I find the knife blade on my leathermans a useful tool.
 
I guess the only other thought I can add is that there is no real reason for them not to. All the security safe tools have been failures as rules have changed out from under them, so the tools might as well keep the blade, if the screwdrivers are just as bad from a TSA or other security perspective.

I do get your point that a lot of knife nuts carry multiple blades, but many cannot, and so want to carry the best blade they can in their multi, which is why we see more and more better steels in multi-tools.
 
Though I always carry a primary blade I do rely on my LM Pulse's blade for dirty jobs and as a more sheeple friendly alternative. I'm glad it's there.
 
gadgetgeek said:
I guess the only other thought I can add is that there is no real reason for them not to. All the security safe tools have been failures as rules have changed out from under them, so the tools might as well keep the blade, if the screwdrivers are just as bad from a TSA or other security perspective.
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Bunk.

I have a Gerber MP600 Bladeless, a Gerber Dime Travel, a Leatherman Style PS, and a bunch of little keychain tools like the True Utility Fixr and Leatherman Piranha—none of which have ever been confiscated by TSA or anyone else, or caused an issue in the knife-averse countries I visit regularly. I wouldn't call them failures by any means, as they all still sell well enough to keep them on the shelves, and I can't think of a single case where "rules have changed out from under them," unless you count disallowing blades in the first place. If anything, you have more options now that scissors are explicitly allowed by TSA and others.
 
The blades on my wave cut stuff just fine. No need to carry around another knife besides a little backup keychain deal.
 
Nap, I guess you've had good experiences. I've had EMT shears confiscated, even though they are on the exempt list. The Dime, Style and piranha are very different from the full size tools. I'm surprised that your gerber gets through. the Bladeless fuse was supposed to be TSA compliant, but then the rule was changed to include screwdrivers over a certain length, so it didn't end up working. The TSA rules change quite often, and so different things are allowed at different times. What that means is that for a manufacturer, they cannot reliably design a tool to be compliant. There was even supposed to be a TSA approval certification, but that didn't happen either. the Spyderco Roadie was designed to meet a rule that was then rescinded.

What gets confiscated depends all on the people and the day, you might walk through with something that someone else gets taken away. Yes things like this sell well enough, but that doesn't mean they don't also get confiscated and then re-purchased.
 
fcap1996 said:
Why dose every good Multi tool have to have a knife? (excluding your standards Swiss Army knife) I feel that most people who carry a multi tool every day usually have a main blade they carry; I personally carry two. I do not need another knife on my multi tool I would much rather for that spot to have a tool I don't already carry. I own multiple Leathermans and multiple Gerbers. I never use the knife on them because I am wearing a neck knife and usually have my zero-tolerance in my pocket alongside my multi tool so why can't Leatherman, Gerber, Sog make like a surge, filk, power lock without a knife!! What's your opinion on this?
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coming for the useful replaceable hard wire cutters and wire splitter, many of us are waiting for next surge tti .... . Wave and Charge TTi likely to be replace .... .
 
I'm willing to bet that most users appreciate the blade on their multi-tool; however, there are some multi-tools that don't have one. There's a little something for everyone.
 
I carry a Leatherman Wave, and a Spyderco Endura. I prefer the longer blade of the Endura for cutting. The Wave comes just as razor sharp as the Endura4, but the Endura sharpens easier and is a more versatile cutter. So yeah, I carry both.
 
In the grand scheme of things, a knife blade just doesn't add much to the width of a multi tool so why not? It doensn't make sense not to have a knife blade on a multi tool even if you carry a seperate knife. It's a great backup if you find your regular blade is dull or if it gets dull.
 
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