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Peltonen SissiPuukko?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by lonestar1979, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. lonestar1979

    lonestar1979

    Mar 2, 2014
    I have in plan to get one of these soon,and then beat the hell out of it.This is a combination of modern and traditional puukko knife,and was wondering are the traditional choices better in performance and value than this one?I have Yrjo Puronvarsi blade,that I got long time ago,but never got chance to make handle for it.Also I like couple of other LAURI and Anssi blades and have been eyeing one of Wood Jewel leukus for excellent price,cheaper than Peltonens knife.Does this Peltonen knife perform better ,and hold edge longer than these traditional choices?
     
  2. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
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  3. dullone

    dullone

    856
    Aug 27, 2002
    Currently you can pick up a M95 for about $90.00 (including shipping to US) from a Finnish company, which is a very good price. I bought the slightly smaller M07 Ranger knife from the same company and am very pleased with it.
     
  4. Mecha

    Mecha Madscienceforge.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    I'm sure Mr. Peltonen doesn't appreciate you calling it a sissy knife. :grumpy:
     
  5. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    You are joking, right?

    sissipuukko = special forces knife
     
  6. Mecha

    Mecha Madscienceforge.com Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Yes I'm kidding. :p
     
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  7. John A. Larsen

    John A. Larsen

    Jan 15, 2001
    The latest versions now come in 80CrV2 steel HRC 59, the blades are about 2mm wider, for better edge geometry and hold an edge even longer than the older models did. I have both the M95 and M07 and they both have performed very well. John
     
  8. Larcivs Lepidvs

    Larcivs Lepidvs

    406
    May 24, 2013
    I have the "old" version M07 and it's my main camping/bushcrafting knife. it's an awesome blade with comfy handle. and I bet the new 80CrV2 versions are even better
     
  9. Kataphraktos

    Kataphraktos

    76
    Jan 1, 2016
    I've had my eye on the smaller of these for a while. Question for anyone who has the current version: how do you sharpen it? I recognize it's not intended to be a true scandi, but seems like the first time you want to thin the backbevel you're going to have to take the coating off the broad scandi/saber bevel. Is that right?
     
  10. hexenjager

    hexenjager Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2016
    I looked into these as well. I liked the looks of original with the full flat grind, but I tend not to be a big fan of saber grinds, so I decided to pass on the newer version. Perhaps I'll find an original version on the exchange at some point.
     
  11. lonestar1979

    lonestar1979

    Mar 2, 2014
    The knife seems like one to definitely get and use,way more practical than most tactical knives on market.The price is decent too.When I see some factory made knives and their prices,my stomach cringe,wayyyy too expensive for what they are,and the performance is just so so.
     
  12. GREENJACKET

    GREENJACKET

    Feb 23, 2000
    Have had a M95 Ranger for a while now. Think its the older steel... not sure.

    They make a great military or utility knife. Mine takes an excellent edge though it goes require regular maintenance as I think the steel is a bit soft compared to other harder knives I have. Being less brittle its unlikely to ever fail, might bend, but unlikely to fail even at -40. The handle is very comfortable even in the wet and cold. The blade is nice and pointy which is a good thing. Its also weighs very little and with the plastic sheath takes up little room on the belt kit. It battons well but isn't ever going to be much of a chopper. Its a kind of knife you could dig mud out of tank tracks and not mind. Frankly it does everything you want in a tough utility knife without spending a bomb.
    I noted that US prices could be quite high, they shouldn't be as its a under $100 knife. A very good one too.

    If its now made in 80CrV2 then that is a plus as my Skrama is made of the same stuff, same factory, and its superb.

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    Looks like they have changed the design a bit. A bit longer, a little thinner, and different grind. Think it will be a better cutter but not as good at battoning. The steel is stronger with a harder edge so should keep sharp longer. Is it an improvement? Changes the goal posts a bit but the concept as a "get on and use it knife" hasn't changed. That extra length means its a pig sticker too. I like my old one, and like the look of this one too.
    Its for using so the coating is going to go after a while. Sharpen it as you wish and if you dig with it, or hit a rock, so what?. Its for using, not for dainty specialised work. Its replaceable if destroyed or lost which for a military utility blade is important; actually important for anyone as losing a knife in the woods isn't difficult, or burning it on the fire. Just use and abuse, perfectly sensible to me.

    Would I replace my old model with the new? Can't think of any reason why not.
     
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2016
  13. JuhaR

    JuhaR

    6
    Sep 5, 2016
    Here's a real old puukko which belonged to my grandfather and father.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    Nice late WWII to mid 1950s.

    We have threads on puukot in general. This is not one of them.
     
  15. mtangent

    mtangent

    Dec 6, 2011
  16. lonestar1979

    lonestar1979

    Mar 2, 2014
    this is real style puukko,I do not like short beveled grinds like Mora does,altough theyre good for money!It can be reground easy or becomes like it should be from factory after many sharpenings.Rhombic almost zero grinds and flat grinds are much better in any kind of task
     
  17. Kataphraktos

    Kataphraktos

    76
    Jan 1, 2016
    Great post--was sufficiently fired up that I wasn't sure whether to order the knife or enlist in the Finnish Army. Realizing after a moment's thought that they probably don't need too many out-of-shape Americans of a certain age trying to sign up, I ordered the Sissipuukko (the M07, not the M95) from Lamnia today. (Added a 20" Hultafors axe at a phenomenal price because I, uh, NEEDED the free shipping.) Just wanted to say thanks for the review and motivation to get new toys...
     
  18. schwep

    schwep

    48
    Jan 4, 2017
    I have one, the new M07 in 80CrV2, and I like the knife. It can take a beating and is also good for fine detailed work. Superb thin feathersticks, and great for cutting bread and cheese, too. But I think that the sheath is overhyped. I had to whittle down the front finger guard of the knife a bit to be able to sheath and unsheath it without needing a sledgehammer to ram it in. The idea is that you can stealthily draw this knife from an upside-down or crossdraw mounted sheath, without the need to undo a snap first. I guess it must be difficult to get the fit and thus the resistance just right, so the knife is well retained and can still be drawn fairly easily. In practice, it still takes too much force both ways (mine, that is; these sheaths are hand made so there may be inconsistencies). Also, the internal blade protector does not run all the way to the very end of the sheath and neither does it go around the spine. Meaning that the very sharp tip hits the leather near the end of the sheath. I actually cut myself when I sheathed the knife while holding the end of the sheath a bit forcefully with my left hand while pushing the knife in - the tip went through the leather and bit me in my left palm. In the long run it will likely enlarge that pinprick to a real cut and the tip will protrude if I'm not very careful (I have an old fileting puukko that has the same problem, the tip has cut through the leather and protrudes about half a centimeter). It means you cannot hold the sheath with your off hand and squeeze it a bit while pushing the knife past the retention wheel. I also noted that the rubber of that wheel is getting cut by the knife edge (it's actually a twin wheel, the edge has to pass exactly between them and if you do not take great care (again, two-handed and looking very well at what you are doing), one of these rubber rims will frequently get a nick from that super sharp edge. Wait until that starts falling apart, too.
    The 'homage' to this knife, the Jääkkäripuukko from Varusteleka, made by the same manufacturer (Laurin Metalli) has a better sheath that uses a large snap button where the Peltonen has that retention wheel. The Jääkkäri is also held in place behind that button, without the need to snap it shut (if you see the two sheaths next to each other, it is clear that both use a similar principle). The knife does not come out even with the snap button open and held/shaken upside down, so anyone wanting to draw silently can just undo the snap well in advance; you only need to close the snap when you are storing the knife at the end of the day. And the Jääkkäri draws and sheaths a lot easier, without the need to be overly careful - I carry mine crossdraw high on my left hip and can easily draw it with my left hand in a reversed grip if needed. That is impossible with the Peltonen sheath, unless you really yank it very hard. The Jääkkäri sheath also has a good, sturdy blade protector insert that envelopes the entire blade.

    So: The Peltonen is an excellent knife, a pleasure to hold, scary sharp, nice high flat profile, nimble but sturdy; I'd give it 9 out of 10 at least, but the leather sheath is below par. Unfortunately, the M07 does not come with the sturdier and ambidextrous plastic sheath that you can get for the M95, it only comes with the leather one, or an ugly Kydex contraption (depending on the store).
    The joke is that the Peltonen M07 will fit reasonably well in the sheath for the Jääkkäri 140... ;-)
     
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  19. wildmike

    wildmike

    Nov 17, 2007
    The M07 will a!so for the plastic sheath for the M95.
    I have the M07 and It is a fantastic knife.
    It has become a favorite!
     
  20. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    And old(-ish) thread but chimed in to say, that although I unfortunately dont have the Peltonen (id like the knife), I do have the smaller of the Terävä knives mentioned and its an excellent knife.

    Basic (to say the least) and sturdy.

    I find it nifty, that you can buy it without the sheath but still with the plastic insert, as I like to make my own sheaths. Thats the option I went for.

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