Pic request: Boker7474 Stockman and other Boker stockmans

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Also your thoughts on F/F. Got a gift certificate for Bass Pro so I'm thinking of picking one up. I know they carry Bokers, so I'm hoping they have stockmans. If anyone knows which Boker lines are made in Germany I would appreciate the info on that too.
 
Had this Boker Tree Brand Stockman a couple of years. Great knife. No complaints at all on the F & F, the steel is good, and the price is fair. Tree Brand are made in Germany.

 
Here's a whole lotta Bokers
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...r-Remscheid-R-amp-H-Bokers-Improved-Cutlery-H

I have probably a dozen or more stockmans, my favorite is my Boker 7474, paid $35 new can't beat that price
Used it for many years as my edc work knife carpentry, hvac, camping, everything, great value in German made Bokers, make sure the shield reads Solingen, if it reads Solingen it's 100% German made, if the shield reads Germany, that means the parts were outsourced and then assembled in Germany

Pete
Found a pic of some of my stockmans Boker is the yellow bone 2nd from the right

 
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Pleased to help you Steve as Bökers are an enthusiasm of mine!

The 74744 is the big Stockman at 4" Böker's C75 carbon is excellent stuff in use. I rate quality as more consistent than CASE at a price far lower than GEC. Tang stamps should have Böker, Germany, Solingen. I have a Grand Canyon jig Bone, Red Jigged Bone and this one in Apoloosa Bone with a Federal shield.

There is also the smaller 3 and three eighths " model 7588 which has more of a Pen blade than Spey and a longpull. These are great knives too, coming in Smooth Yellow Bone, wood, dark jigged and a fantastic stag I just got today! Thick but not gross matched slabs and excellent F&F, can't get a pic as it's near midnight here. This cost me about 51 Euro or 70 USD including postage to Europe, great stag and great value on this knife.

You should look at their Whittler pattern too, very tidy indeed and again carbon with a variety of scales.

Thanks, Will

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Great looking knives guys,
Jack, I like the Tortoise shell,Pete, that was what I thought I heard, that they outsourced or made them elsewhere.
Will, I had a whittler years ago, in red bone that my brother in law weaseled off of me. From what I remember it was well make with the double spring on the master. I think I'll be getting one even if Pro Bass doesn't stock them
I look forward to seeing he stag.
Pete that Moore Maker on the end has a lot of belly in the main blade. Nice.
 
hello! i'm living in austria, near germany and ordered a boker 7474 stockman from america (because not for the german market) and the finish was ok, but the springforce was very weak, had to push two of the blades open! i thought i ask boker germany to do something about it because i thought that would be easier than sending it back to america and get a replacement from there but they replied that this is not possible because these knifes are made "abroad"...so i sent it back to america and ordered a case stockman instead. i dont wanna do boker bashing here but i had several knifes from them and was disappointed with 50% of them (scales coming off of a small sodbuster, nailbreakers and the weak springs...). for me this company is too big, nontransparent, making a ton of different knives for several markets made all over the world, just too many patterns and most of them cheapos made in china. the only knifes that are made in germany as far as i know are the boker manufaktur knives (exept a nailbreaker i had no problems so far). with these you can be shure that fit and finish is ok because the quality control is ok (you will pay a higher price for these knives). as an austrian, european, i am sorry to say that but you should go with case or GEC, GEC is just perfect, and i do have several case knifes and they are perfectly assembled, perfect walk and talk. (had some minor aeshtetic issues like a roughly adjusted kick but nothing you cant fix yourself in a few minutes).
brgds b
 
As far as where they are made just make sure that on either the shield or blade stamp it says Solingen. If you don't see Solingen anywhere on the knife but just Germany than chances are it was assembled in China. That is the best way I have found to be 100% sure. Somewhere around here there is a thread where a Boker rep lists the model numbers of the non German assembled knives.

I need to get better pictures of mine but the 2 I have are as good if not better than the Case examples I have and my Case examples are good ones with no flaws.

This one is 4" closed and was a special edition made for Smoky Mountain Knife Works with jigged red bone. Awesome fit and finish and I want to say was made in the 90's but I'd have to look that up.
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This one was a Christmas present from my then fiance and the knife I carried on my wedding day. I have knives that cost much much more than this one but this one means the most to me. 3.25" closed smooth yellow bone.
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Jake
 
i do have the lower one with the yellow bone as well and that one is ok-actually i do really like it. but the other one, the 7474 had solingen stamped on the tang and was no where near ok. maybe its a hit or miss thing (and maybe they did a better job in the 90s)-so if you have the chance to try them do it before you buy!
 
I don't have any Boker stockmans but after working at a knife shop where we sold hundreds upon hundreds of Bokers, typically the highest sales were fall and christmas to companies who had their logos engraved on them, I can safely say I love their f&f. The trappers I have are great quality and I lean towards the Solingen carbon blade but they seem to do a really nice job with 440C also. Wish I had an Appaloosa like willgoy, absolutely beautiful knives. Like what was mentioned above, make sure it says Solingen, if it doesn't it is more than likely a Chinese assembled knife. Tree Brand is made in Germany, Boker Plus and Magnum are made in China. Be careful because Boker Plus does have traditional knives in their line, they look nice but if you want the real deal find a Tree Brand. I'll take a Boker over modern Case anyday when it comes to quality.
 
You should have a look at the Boker USA subforum, perhaps. My recollection is that a Solingen shield is all German, a Germany shield is Chinese parts assembled in Germany, and I forget what is all Chinese. Also you can tell from the catalog pages, and from the model numbers, except for a while when the model numbers overlapped.

They call this a 2-blade stockman, I'd call it a serpentine jack. I like it a lot and have no f&f problems with it.
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Jack Black said:
Had this Boker Tree Brand Stockman a couple of years. Great knife. No complaints at all on the F & F, the steel is good, and the price is fair. Tree Brand are made in Germany.
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Jack, please allow me a correction to let others know the mistake I made about a year ago when buying Boker. If it does not say "SOLINGEN" on the blade, it may not be German made. Germany markings may indeed be an indicator of where the company is located, not necessarily having anything to do with where parts and assembly take place. Some of these knives should say "Boker of Germany" on the box or blade, then have a stamp, sticker or something to let us know where it the knife was actually made.

I found out about the "SOLINGEN" requirement when I called Boker after buying a couple of their "Cinch" line of knives. I talked to the customer service rep and he was quite clear on the matter and told me that he was working as hard as he could to get better labeling and customer information out there. We even looked at the website together and the wording was so ambiguous, that he had me send both knives to him along with proof of purchase and Boker refunded my money.

I am not that picky in regards to where a knife is made, but I want to make sure that I get what I pay for. So in the case of Boker and their refund on the matter, along with a great explanation from a guy that didn't dodge the issue in any way, no harm no foul from me.

Just a little more info for those buying Boker.

Robert
 
i searched at their homepage, there are tree brand knifes with and without the solingen stamps, but all of the blades without the solingen stamps are "high carbon stainless steel" whatever that is, the knifes with the solingen stamp have often blades with C75 carbon steel...for me its a sign of quality if the maker is willing to name his steel. C75 is a good one. could it be that the tree brand knifes without solingen stamp are made in china? i just dont like it when companies try to mislead their customers with many different lines, stamps, etchings, brands, or just no details about their products (case does that with their steel too but they have carbon and their stainless, thats it, you know what you get) etc and in the end you buy just good looking china crap. quote from the homepage: "The Premium Brand: Since 1869, only the very best in sporting and collectible knives are made in the Boker manufacturing plant in Solingen, Germany." they dont say that these specific knifes are made in germany...i'm sorry, but i dont get it, as i said they couldnt do anything for me because the knife i bought (the 7474 appaloosa) was made "abroad" and not in germany. why does one 4" bone handled stockman costs 85$ and another 4" bone handled stockman 43$ ?
No offense, just curious and i dont believe in the "quality made in germany" lie anymore, there are companies all over the world (even china) who can produce good quality products but you have to find them and in the most cases they are smaller ones and you are going to pay a bit more for their products.
edit: i write too slowly ;) was answering bobloblaw89
@scrteened porch: this is a "manufaktur" i was talking about, these are made in germany, on the german homepage you can see that. but there are very few...
 
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Their practices are very misleading & disappointing what they are doing but they do still make some nice knives. The yellow bone stockman I posted above doesn't say Solingen in the blade but it does on the shield & has carbon steel blades. I don't think there is anything set in stone with them but as long as it says Solingen somewhere on the knife it is made in Germany and that seems to be one of the few for sure things.
 
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They call this a 2-blade stockman, I'd call it a serpentine jack. I like it a lot and have no f&f problems with it.
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I have one of those and am quite happy with the fit and finish. Olive wood covers and 440C blades plus very good fit and finish. It's a winner in my book.
(And I call it a "stockman jack", though I know there's no such animal.)
 
jkulysses said:
Their practices are very misleading & disappointing what they are doing but they do still make some nice knives. The yellow bone stockman I posted above doesn't say Solingen in the blade but it does on the shield & has carbon steel blades. I don't think there is anything set in stone with them but as long as it says Solingen somewhere on the knife it is made in Germany and that seems to be one of the few for sure things.
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That's odd, my Yellow Bone Small Stockman certainly has 'Solingen' stamped on he tang, with H.Böker & Co. an the Tree logo, stamped not engraved. Same with the stag version. I'm really pleased with these knives all round.

Steve, you should think about one of their Copperhead models, a burly character!

Thanks, Will
 
midnight flyer said:
Bold and italics by me.

Jack, please allow me a correction to let others know the mistake I made about a year ago when buying Boker. If it does not say "SOLINGEN" on the blade, it may not be German made. Germany markings may indeed be an indicator of where the company is located, not necessarily having anything to do with where parts and assembly take place. Some of these knives should say "Boker of Germany" on the box or blade, then have a stamp, sticker or something to let us know where it the knife was actually made.

I found out about the "SOLINGEN" requirement when I called Boker after buying a couple of their "Cinch" line of knives. I talked to the customer service rep and he was quite clear on the matter and told me that he was working as hard as he could to get better labeling and customer information out there. We even looked at the website together and the wording was so ambiguous, that he had me send both knives to him along with proof of purchase and Boker refunded my money.

I am not that picky in regards to where a knife is made, but I want to make sure that I get what I pay for. So in the case of Boker and their refund on the matter, along with a great explanation from a guy that didn't dodge the issue in any way, no harm no foul from me.

Just a little more info for those buying Boker.

Robert
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Thank you Robert, I had to run and find my knife! Well mine is made in Solingen at least! Phew! :D :thumbup:

I do think that some of the German companies (and Boker aren't the worst) are playing fast and loose with the hard-won reputations of their forefathers, as well as their customers. Robert Klaas for example license out their name, with no idea where the subsequent knives are made.
 
Some good info here, thanks for all the info. I'll definitely pay more attention when looking and handle a few. What happened to swedges on pocketknives these days? Is GEC the only one left that puts the effort in?
That stockman Jack looks interesting but somehow incomplete. Frank, it's sort of like a Half Whittler, but with blades on one end would make it a Jack. I'm hoping for a nice Rosewood one. I seem to remember them with the full blade etch, although that one done for Smokey Mountain has some nice Jigging.
 
sad but you are right jack, these companies are living from selling tons of knives to the unaware who dont care or dont mind of quality but get a shiny knife for a few bucks...which they toss into the waste bin when they dont like it any longer. but there are some left, smaller ones. eg hartkopf, otter, löwenmesser
 
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