Pivot Lubrication

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Hello all

I am a newbie, and I could use some guidance.

What is recommended for pivot lubrucation on folders? I am not looking to disassemble.

I have tried researching, and there seems to be a lot of different perspectives on this. I recently ordered a tube of Tuf Glide thinking it was what I needed (especially with the pen tip), but I have now seen opinions that Tuff Glide is not good. I don't want to harm my knives...
 
There is only ONE . . . proper . . . lubricant for a pocket knife and that is Starrett instrument oil . . . naturally.
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One other that you might like or have on hand is the graphite lubricant. Goes on as a super penetrating liquid and the vehicle evaporates leaving a dry layer of graphite like one would put in a lock.

I just use a super sparing fraction of a drop of the Starrett oil on a pivot or a blade spring and that way there isn't enough to collect pocket lint. My applicator of choice is shown. It is a hypodermic oiler bottle. Very controllable.

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That is my grail knife. It is a ball bearing flipper.
 
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This is what I’ve been doing to care for most of my flippers when gunked up (without disassembly).

1. Blow them out with compressed air.
2. Give ‘em a good blast of WD-40, cycle a bunch and then blow the snot out of ‘em—until dry & then some. Repeat once.
3. Lube the pivot liberally (2 good drops +), cycle a bunch, then blow ‘em dry with compressed air. Repeat once.
4. Wipe down the blade with mineral oil.

I’ve been using ZeroFriction gun lubricant or Bones Speed Cream (skateboard bearing lube) lately. They are both fairly light. I’ve used Singer sewing machine oil in the past...it works good but is so light it didn’t seem to hold up very long. Some people swear by Daiwa reel oil. I’ll pick some of that up eventually.

In my opinion any good, reasonably fine lube will work well. I use WD-40 as a ‘solvent’ to flush crud and displace moisture. Then I more or less displace the WD by oiling & blowing. I’m sure some folks will think my technique is blasphemous, but it’s been working for me.

Oops, guess I went a little overboard with my reply. :)

Welcome to the forum I Illinigolf40
 
Quick release, Benchmade blue lube, Daiwa reel oil, graphite, mineral oil, crk grease, finish line grease. These are all great. There's alot more good choices too.

I would disassemble. But if you don't have any problems then just add a drop of lube on each side. Disassembly can be disastrous. So I can understand why you would not want too. But a fair amount of good knives are easy to maintain.

Avoid Nano oil. It's expensive label on mineral oil.
Avoid anything that will go rancid.
Haven't hear good things about Frog lube for the pivot, but its basically coconut oil and it's great corrosion inhibitor.
Some folks like wd40 but I'm not. When it evaporates it's just a gewey mineral oil.

Most people put too much lube of any type on. Less is better. should be very light oil along detent track for best action... And light oil in bearings, just enough to coat the bearings but not swim in it. Just enough to prevent corrosion.

Too much and then it collects dust and debris as well as creating friction. (do an experiment. Get a fidget spinner, clean the bearings with brake cleaner or acetone. See how long it spins. Then put a very very tiny pin drop of oil in the bearings and see it spin shorter).

Grease is great for knives, particularly washers. It's a barrier from debris, fluids etc and when applied the carrier in it evaporates and it dries making itself a Teflon washer in a way. When the blade rotates across it, there is very little friction. Nice and smooth. Only apply to blade side. You don't want the washer to rotate, so scale side should be dry. That goes for oil too on washers.

Both types, grease and oil work great with less lube than you would think. Action is heavily dependent on many factors but generally not by adding lots of oil. Action revolves more with the detent along the blade, lockbar tension and so on and so on. But most folks assume it's just the bearings in the pivot.

All knives are different and all owners are different. One knife may work the way you want it to depending on the oil or grease used. It may just depend on the environment or its use.

Lastly decide if you want food safe or not. Then read the label. If it's not food safe probably not a good idea to use a lot and then eat with that knife. I use both

When cleaning old lube or factory lube off, alcohol will not be strong enough to remove completely. This could cause issues. Also if your having gritty action and alcohol does not work... Acetone, Zippo Lighter fluid aka napatha and brake cleaner all work great. Use either of them with caution of course. Also don't use these on g10 or micarta as it could discolor. Just adding oil to remedy an issue isn't fixing the issue.

Recently been using quick release and its a great oil, very little is needed, as if you put too much on it will go all over the place. The half of drop can spread all over the place. I generally apply a drop on a qtip and spread it on the metal I want to apply it too. Add drops if necessary but angle the metal in the light and you can see it there. That's more than enough. It's not food safe. But the lubricity is crazy good. Puts Nano oil to shame (try and compare I dare you).

I'm really nerdy about my knives. Most people don't care.
 
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Acetone, Zippo Lighter fluid aka napatha and brake cleaner all work great. Use either of them with caution of course. Also don't use these on g10 or micarta as it could discolor.

Yes I would stick to using just paint thinner (not paint stripper obviously). Paint thinner is pretty mild to the components of the knife including wood but will remove lubricants and dirt.

Some of the other solvents could melt plastic etc. and maybe remove finish or glued on shields.
 
No thinner for SAK cellidor scale. It dissolves the scale. Other than that, all good advices here.

I only use WD40 & baby oil.
 
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Thanks for all of the input!

As suspected, still many different options... My search for the one definitive answer still continues. :)

I did not realize Benchmade made a lubricant. I may check that out. If Benchmade sells it, I assume it is good to go?

I see they sell a cleaner. Is that good for blades and using as a protectant on blades?

Thanks everyone. Looking for something easy, that works, that won't mess anything up.
 
My first choice is Nano-Oil.
New knives 5wt to break in then use 10wt in future lubrication. Just a few drips in pivot area.
I have enjoyed folders for over 30 years and tried almost all of the lubrications.
They all work to various degrees.

Regards,
FK
 
The answer you seek will only lead to more questions. A revelation i can give you is this, all answers are the same, oil.
If you wont or cant disassemble then grease it out of the question. Any oil in a dropper will lubricate a folding knife pivot. Mineral oil if any contact with food. Outside of that good old motor oil would do the trick.
(My preferred method of lubrication is bearing grease. I use it on my folding knives and guns. disassembly required)
The brand oil is where the question you ask seems to be unanswered. There are so many brands all doing the same thing. What I use if i am oiling is slip 2000 or motor oil.
Example-Whats the best motor oil for your car? Each company claims to be the best. Each company claims their oil offers something different than the others. But they really dont. They’re oil and they lubricate.
Stick with a known brand, plenty mentioned above and don’t over think it.
 
Example-Whats the best motor oil for your car? Each company claims to be the best. Each company claims their oil offers something different than the others. But they really dont. They’re oil and they lubricate.
Stick with a known brand, plenty mentioned above and don’t over think it.
Motor oil is not good persay because of all the additives and detergents and being toxic (transmission oil is great too but really toxic). But it works and if that's what you have or like, use it. It provides corrosion protection and lubrication.
 
Motor oil is not good persay because of all the additives and detergents and being toxic (transmission oil is great too but really toxic). But it works and if that's what you have or like, use it. It provides corrosion protection and lubrication.
A lot oils are toxic. A lot of oils clean as well as lube.
 
Don’t forget the environment you intend to use your knives in. Some very general rules: very light or a dry lubrication in dry dusty environments, thinner lubricants in extremely cold environments, thicker lubricants in extremely hot environments. Finally, in corrosive and dirty environments such as salt air or dust, be prepared to clean and replace the lubricants far more often.
 
Don’t forget the environment you intend to use your knives in. Some very general rules: very light or a dry lubrication in dry dusty environments, thinner lubricants in extremely cold environments, thicker lubricants in extremely hot environments. Finally, in corrosive and dirty environments such as salt air or dust, be prepared to clean and replace the lubricants far more often.

Good point, and mineral oil is good if you are going to use the knife for food prep.
 
I use Weapon shield..
Good for guns... Smells nice... Does the job.
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I think another thing that needs to be specified is what type of pivots the knife has. What might be ideal for a knife that has ceramic ball bearings probably isn't gong to be ideal if it has stainless ball bearings. Then there is likely a different type of lube that is more ideal for folders with nylon pivots. There is definitely no one oil that is the best for all knives and the knife oil companies don't even specify what type of pivots their oils are best for. Still slot of unanswered questions about which oil is best for the different types of folder pivots.
 
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