Possible fake imperial knives????

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Would these imperials being sold as vintage new old stock be fake??? I can't find this exact marking on any of the imperial guides found here.
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Looks fine to me. I've seen that stamp variation before. The stamp examples and lists you'll find in this forum while extensive aren't all encompassing.
 
Hi from Australia, can you post a photo of the knife.
Some of those knives were made in the USA, Ireland and England. Ken
 
koldgold said:
Hi from Australia, can you post a photo of the knife.
Some of those knives were made in the USA, Ireland and England. Ken
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It's on eBay there's 6 of them for a good price that's why I was wondering


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Nobody would fake an Imperial. They were low-price-point knives then and still are. The counterfeit market generally consists of knives intended to draw prices of $300 and up (read CASE, and original so-called "bowie" knives).
 
tongueriver said:
Nobody would fake an Imperial. They were low-price-point knives then and still are. The counterfeit market generally consists of knives intended to draw prices of $300 and up (read CASE, and original so-called "bowie" knives).
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Ok. Good to know. I know they're not high end knives. But I like them in that size and style.


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tongueriver said:
Nobody would fake an Imperial. They were low-price-point knives then and still are. The counterfeit market generally consists of knives intended to draw prices of $300 and up (read CASE, and original so-called "bowie" knives).
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They look OK to me. I have Imperial knives and even the knives Schrade had made in China, they are all very good knives.
The knives made in Japan were very good knives, tang stamp was "Schrade - China"
I belive that price is less then their R.R.P., back when they were For Sale in Department Stors.
I often paid under $5 when I was putting my collection together... Ken.
 
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What Schrade knives were made in Japan?
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Sorry about Japan, It should have been China. :foot:

Schrade was well into using China and Ireland to make some of their knives.
The polished silver blade "Badger SX4" was made in China.
The Black blade "Badger SX4" was made in Ireland. [Schrade owned a factory in Ireland]
This Satin finished, "100th Anniversary - Etched Blade, SX4" [made in China] was just another knife scraped in 2004.
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This is another knife [an ACB 8] that did not make it to production...Ken.
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When the unfinished ACB knives were selling on eBay, about 6 years ago - some collectors said they were fake.
 
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tongueriver said:
Nobody would fake an Imperial. They were low-price-point knives then and still are. The counterfeit market generally consists of knives intended to draw prices of $300 and up (read CASE, and original so-called "bowie" knives).
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Lots of fake Ontario Rat 1's (a $30.00 knife) Buck 110's (another $30 to $50 knife, depending on where you buy) and other inexpensive knives on eBay.
 
I should have said 'counterfeit,' as in a hand-done fake. I am assuming you are referring to the many clones which are factory-made. My bad.
 
I've bought some of the other Jackmasters from that vendor and the ones I received were very real old stock. Some showed more corrosion, some less. None were perfect and if they were artificially aged it was a true master who did it. The time needed to perfect the look and the knives themselves would have cost more than the vendor was charging in time/$. I grew up with Imperial Jackmasters and know what they looked like, how the originals felt on the sharpening stones, where the shells would slightly move, everything. In fact I still have a bunch of originals I bought in the 70's to 80's to compare them too. The ones I bought are Kosher ( 801,803, 808P, 831, 832 ) Back then I couldn't afford Buck, Gerbers, and to me a Camillus was an expensive knife.

For a dollar or 3 in the 70's we had knives that were not built like my Spyderco's and didn't have powder stainless blades with Vanadium carbides but the knives with those thin carbon steel blades ( all the above except the 808P) they sure could cut and slice and resharpened easy. One might not believe what we could do with those under $2 knives.

joe
 
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