Pre-Ordered GSO 5.1 on May 09, 2016. Still no knife and no explanation.

Discussion in 'Survive! Knives' started by 11B3Y, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. 11B3Y


    Dec 31, 2001
    Dear Survive! Customer Service,

    When (if ever) will you be making the GSO 5.1 knives?
    It's been over TWO years. I feel like I have been hustled.

    Has anyone else pre-ordered one of these knives and already received it?
    I was so excited when I pre-ordered it - now it's nothing but anxiety.
    Can I get a refund???

    I tried to read other posts to be more positive but to be honest it just frustrates me even more.
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2018
  2. ndmiller

    ndmiller Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 30, 2015
    According to the last July 2018 Production update quoted above, your GSO-5.1 is on the last line, so dead last in line. I would send them an email and request a refund.
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  3. ajvail18

    ajvail18 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 12, 2017
    [email protected]
  4. JackKnives


    Aug 12, 2017
    Better be prepare to wait a decade for it. But at the rate Survive is going with things, it could be even longer! I'm not even joking too.
  5. mlmcasual


    Jun 10, 2013
    As others have said, the established past and future track record of lead times implies- you can expect to wait about a decade to get your 5.1. And no, that is not a joke, sarcasm, or exaggeration. Your wait has not even begun. So you have to make a decision. But despair not, they also still honor refunds.
  6. Citori


    Sep 28, 2002
    You are correct to feel you've been hustled because you have. The people at Survive cannot answer your question about when your knife will be delivered as they are unable or unwilling to perform the rather simple calculation of lead time, then inform their customers.
    As others have posted, their process for requesting refunds is to give them a call.
  7. 11B3Y


    Dec 31, 2001
    I asked for a refund via email months ago. Got a canned reply.
    I'll call and request a refund. So very disappointed.
    Thanks for all the responses, greatly appreciated.
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  8. scout1sg

    scout1sg Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    The 5.1 as other have mentioned is pretty much the last one identified for production, I'm in the same boat as I ordered on in June of 16. With the current back orders of models/sales that were released much earlier there really is no foreseeable timeline in sight (challenging enough for even older releases currently in some sort of phase of production). There shouldn't be an issue (or excuse on their part) on the refund as their new refund policy's were not implemented until just recently.
  9. LukeTheSpook


    Jan 2, 2015
    Let's face facts. The only thing Survive! Knives can do at this point is to sell what they have as far as assets and trademarks, relieve as much debt as they can, to a company that can actually produce knives.

    How many of us would have a dozen gso knives if kabar and Benchmade was manufacturing them?

    Honestly I would bet the company has been shopped around already and it must be so far underwater, no one would buy it.
  10. BBuser


    Sep 4, 2016
    If KaBar made them they wouldn't be GSOs and I wouldn't have any. Nothing against KBar but Guy's product is it's own thing.
  11. LukeTheSpook


    Jan 2, 2015

    I’m talking about a competent company that knows how to produce a product, buying the Gso line and producing them.

    You know, instead of talking one’s money and then not producing anything for years. Any real knife company would turns these things out and we’d all be swimming in gso’s.

    There is absolutely nothing original or magical about the way these knives are produced that would justify a three year weight for a 5” saber ground chunk of steel
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  12. CataD

    CataD Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    ^ Not sure if you know, but this is how S!K started. Guy designed the knives and Barkriver was producing them. After years of issues, Guy decided to start making the knives himself, first with a lot of contracting work and then (through the Starter) bringing more and more in-house.

    I agree with BBuser, I would not buy a 'GSO/S!K' made by kabar/benchmade/etc, esp. anything made by barkriver. That's prob why I don't have anything from those comp...
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2018
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  13. Fancier


    Jul 1, 2012
    The business model at Survive is still broken, but the knives are still excellent, particularly the handles.
    In my opinion what sets the "new spec" GSO apart from production knives is the way that they feel in hand.
    They still cost less than a custom knife and have excellent ergonomics, but I have not waited this long for anything else I've ordered.
    Also, anything else I've ordered has been "cash on delivery" not "cash up front".
    So, as I've said before, I'd really like to see the SK line rolling out and discover what can be done with Guy's current designs built without Guy's shop time.
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  14. LukeTheSpook


    Jan 2, 2015

    I think you’re missing the point. Survive is having just a little trouble actually making a knife. Let say they give the operation of to “great American knife co”. Or ACME knives. Someone that can actually manufacture.
  15. Fancier


    Jul 1, 2012
    Which is exactly concept behind the SK line. :)
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  16. CataD

    CataD Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Why do you say I'm missing the point? I just told you they tried that (handing the entire production to another company) already and they didn't like it/didn't work out. Why would they try to do the same thing again? Anyways.. isn't the move to Millit and having them produce the SK line, a step in that direction?
    Last edited: Jul 9, 2018
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  17. md02geist

    md02geist Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 8, 2010
    I mean they announced the SK line a long long time ago so. Take that as you will.

    I had no idea Bark River was producing their early stuff or I never would have bought any. I refuse to support that company whatsoever.
  18. Psybull


    Dec 31, 2015
    Other than the original 100 prototypes and a couple of 5.1s that had factory ground convex edges what other knives were made by Bark River? Wasn't the edc4 and 10 after those production wise and most of the metal work done by a different company?
  19. Fancier


    Jul 1, 2012
    You can tell the Bark River models by their characteristic slack belt convex grinds.
    Anything with a flat grind (or primary bevel if you think in those terms) was ground by somebody else.
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2018
  20. LukeTheSpook


    Jan 2, 2015

    I'm not suggesting getting another company Involved or farming out a few steps. I mean sell the company to someone that knows how to run a business. There is 100% no argument to saying guy and crew have absolutely no idea how to run a business. Design a great product? Yes. Run a business? Big fat fail.complete with victims.

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