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Some models have a smaller audience, either because of price or design. That doesn't stop us from offering our designs to those smaller audiences.
No reason to close the thread, I believe it's civil.
This is really what it comes down to, I think many people can't rationalize this and are determined to blame other factors (mainly Spyderco).It is not too much for the model, perhaps you just can't afford it? Which is ok.
Would the asking prices of those models be questioned if the exact same products and quality were being made for Spyderco in, say, Italy or Switzerland?
Jim
Lol, Guilty. I complain, and compare restaurant prices to grocery store prices.You sound like someone who complains about the price of a $28 chicken dish in a restaurant who says they can get a package of skinless breasts in a supermarket for $4. Completely ignoring rent, labor and other costs.
Sal et al., I have absolutely no problem with in any way with Taiwan. My entire stance is cost based and it's cheaper to produce there, which is why I'm making the point they are Taiwanese folders. You outsource manufacturing in at least four countries so it's a simple matter of literal clarity. I'm a very well traveled individual, Taiwan is absolutely sure to be a "nicer" country than many I've visited. And they do produce really nice knives less expensively then were they made in the United States.
I wouldn't have a problem spending $500 on a folder I thought justified the price. The entire point is the Paysan doesn't illustrate any such value to apparently many people. I didn't realize until a few moments ago when I was googling the subject that this has come up before on your own forums.
If the value is hidden, as you allude to, I'd just have to take your word for it on faith. But I, personally, won't do that anymore than I will believe it's worth the price just because I'm flatly told so.
But I'm also not the type of knife owner who would own the same design in 20cv, M390, and 204p. I will admit that I don't entirely understand the collectors mindset when it comes to things like that. My business mind tells me that having essentially redundant skus is not good practice. But then again as I freely admit, I do not fully understand the mind of a collector. I never went in for baseball cards, or hot wheels, etc., as a kid, and I guess I still don't "get it." But apparently Spyderco does and knows how to create product line that appeals to individuals with the collector drive.
And there's nothing wrong with that. Perhaps the mindset is what I'm not understanding. It was not my supposition that the Paysan was priced as a transient -and thus rarified- collector. I was simply looking at it as a presumably well-built titanium framelock with an s90v blade.
Personally, I myself have never spent over $200 on any knife other than CRKs, and I am not interested in these particular models. But clearly, there is a market for them, small as it may be. Luckily, as already mentioned by others, Spyderco has many models in virtually every price range. If those models were made here, at the same quality, the prices would be even higher.These models, at these prices? Yes, they would definitely still be questioned, no matter where they were made at.
The reason for my above post was that some (or many) people still seem to equate overseas manufacturing (which for whatever reasons usually seems to mean 'Asia' lumped together) as being somehow inherently inferior to US manufacturing
Jim
Sal et al., I have absolutely no problem with in any way with Taiwan. My entire stance is cost based and it's cheaper to produce there, which is why I'm making the point they are Taiwanese folders. ....
I think 90% is a bit of a stretch even for "educated" folks. Buy the expensive models you seek. Just buy fewer knives. Happy Happy.Honestly I will try to make a statement: I think that 90% of the educated community if they were able to afford would buy ALL the spyderco. Why? Seriously guys, they are amazing,every knife I have has a soul.
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Wish I could buy more of their expensive models eheheheh