Primitive version of the Sayoc-Winkler axe in the making.

Edwood7

Edwood7

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Primitive version of the Sayoc-Winkler axe in the making.

Hi every one. Well the war club I made is hanging out side; the wood on it is ageing beautifully. That project made me want to do another.

The idea for this axe came from going to survival, escape and evasion training I’m going to. Part of one the lessons was improvised weapons. We had to make weapons with whatever we could find in and around the old hangers were we are training.

Most of the guys made make shift knives and stabbing spikes etc. I made a tomahawk of course:cool:. I made it from a piece of metal that I found that was shaped like a triangle, I grinded out an edge on it by scraping it on the concrete. I made the handle with a three branch, and my shoe lasses held the head to the hawk.

The instructor is former IDF. He looked at it when I was done and was really impressed with it, at the end of the class he asked me if he could keep it, to show to future students. I gave it to him:o.

I could not take any pictures of it, for security reasons there were no cameras allowed. But now that I’m back home im going the make one for myself.
I started off by cutting out a piece of plate steel that I found in the scrap yard. Cut it in to shape with a blow torch and sharpened the edge a bit.

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The handle I’m making from a piece of pine wood I got from a three branch that almost made my crash when it was in the middle of the road:mad: and I had to swerve to not hit it. I decided that it was a message from god, so I’m going to use it as a handle:D.

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I’m not sure how to attach the head to the handle. I’m going for an eyeless tomahawk. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks for looking and be safe out there.
 
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I see you've made some grinds where the handle meets the head. Might want to make the 4 wedges/grinds (burrs need to be rounded off so it doesn't cut the cord eventually) a little deeper for the better fit with the cord later
Remove the middle portion of the pine wood, about 1/4 of it, from the top (not too much so you could squeeze the head into it) and now you have the head roughly balanced with the wood. The top open portion could be close by tying heavy duty cord kriss-kross and finished with a turk head on top.

Assuming all these are SERE feel, using as little power-tools as possible.
 
I would cut a slot in the fat end of the stick for the head to completely recess into. I would then soak some rawhide bootlaces in water. Then do an "X" wrap around the head and stick joint, and a wrap at the head base also. After its all dried you could treat the rawhide with an epoxy thinned with acetone to soak into the rawhide, adding strength to it.
Good Luck it looks like a fun project.
 
Hey Edwin
Cut a slot for the head to slide Down into but notch the head and use a wedge to fill in the slot. Look here later today, I'll do a drawing and post it.
Keep safe Bro.

Robin
 
Hey Edwin
Here's a drawing of how it will work. The wedge should not be a wedge but a flat piece of wood that fits the slot tight but not so tight that it spreds the slot. The slot should fit the head tight but again not enough to widen the slot. The notches out of the head should be so they are just outside the slot front and back and the bottom end of the slot should have the haft right inside it. If you can drill the head through the "Tang" you could pin it. Use lots of epoxy and clamp the haft with the head in the slot and the wedge in place to fill the the top of the slot. The "wedge" should go right into the top notch on the head.
Doing it this way will stop the head from moving forward and backwards so you can use the edge or the spike. I'd use bamboo meat scewers to pin the haft to the wedge. Hope this is understandable ;-))) Email me if I can help. Keep safe Bro.

Best regards

Robin
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JayGoliath said:
Archangel,

May i ask why? to soften the leather?
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The lace will stretch when wetted. Then when it dries it will shrink and be even tighter.
The method I was thinking of is similar to Pipemans I think. As a matter of fact the wedge and pins and then lacing would be awesome. My favorite lacing would be artificial sinew if you could get it.
 
ArchAngel said:
The lace will stretch when wetted. Then when it dries it will shrink and be even tighter.
The method I was thinking of is similar to Pipemans I think. As a matter of fact the wedge and pins and then lacing would be awesome. My favorite lacing would be artificial sinew if you could get it.
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Hey Arch Angel
Tandy used to have brown braided artificial sinue, really waxy and strong as hell. If they still have it the stuff is great for tying heads. I use it on my throwers as handle wraps cause it's sticky and allows for a great grip.

Regards

Robin
 
Edwood, I PM'ed you some stuff but had another thought. I have heated the spike and burned my way threw the haft on a couple. Smokes like Hell and catches the haft on fire but the fit if perfect and I kinda like the look of the scorched wood.
On the rawhide a leather dog chew soaked in warm water till soft and then slit around it with scissors gives you about a mile of rawhide thong. Work it wet but not sopping........Ain't ya done yet?..........Randy
 
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Thank you for the info, I’m just finishing the handle carving. Put 2 metal pins to attach the head to the handle, and hammered the pins flat.

I took advantage of the natural curve of the wood to simulate that of the original R&D axe. I also decided to put a few finger grooves on the bottom part, also like that of the original.

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Drilled a lanyard hole and carve a few more grooves on the handle to put on a few leather straps on latter on. It’s incredibly well balanced. I’m going to add a few more carvings, and leather straps to the handle, what do you think of the work so far?

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That's really cool, wel done! And you know there is something about it's big friend there in the third pick..... I want to pick it up and swing it around. I might have to make my own one of these days.
 
The Edwood complaint department line is starting to look real short. Nice Job Brother. Mr. Winkler should be proud.......Randy
 
Edwood,
You are amazing. Not only can you fight, but you can make hawks as well. Nice.
Howard
 
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Scary looking tools you made Ed, you should carry them when you`re working, the scare factor alone would keep the crowds under control. ;-))

Keep safe Brother

Best regards

Robin
 
Pipeman said:
Scary looking tools you made Ed, you should carry them when you`re working, the scare factor alone would keep the crowds under control. ;-))

Keep safe Brother

Best regards

Robin
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Thanks Robin, I am going to take it on my training days with the cadets to scare them a bit. I got some leather for the wrapping on the head. (had to steal one of my girl friends belts, muajajaja) I’m finishing it of tomorrow. Thanks for all your help guys. I love this axe forum.
 
I think I’m finished with the axe. Did the handle wrapping. Not very fancy but useful.
It looks lot bigger than the R&D.

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That hawk looks so bad assed. very Post-apocalyptic. If i were a cadet i wouldn't know whether to be impressed or S*** myself in fear.

Great job.
 
Very, very cool Ed! The only thing you could do to up the scare factor would be to add some blood and hair to the spikes. Make it look like it's been used often, and you'll probably never have to use it.

Next time you have an interrogation, mention a cavity search and drop that root ball club on the table. I bet they'll give up everything!
 
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