QSP Quality control issues?

mcrow

mcrow

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Just checking in to see if anyone else is having this issue.

I ordered a Parrot and when I got it and tried it out the lock wouldn't engage. Looking at the liner it looks like the lock bar is too long so it doesn't slide over and engage the lock. I sent it back and received a replacement but the replacement has the same issue.

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am I seeing double washers there too on one side?

so when opened, it won't lock up.....what ya took pic of is what it is?

ive had this happen on a couple rough rider liner locks and an Italian brand liner lock made in maniago...... but if I really opened it hard it would just barely...as in one half of the liner lock bar would catch. i dont own any qsp so can't comment if you're the one off or not.

id return that one for one that works properly.
 
Yes, double washer on the one side, other side looks like a plastic washer.

I did return the first one I received like this and this one is the replacement. So two knives, the same issue. I think there's an issue with a whole batch they made. I contacted one of their reps directly and they're going to check with the factory on it. Just wasn't sure if anyone else who ordered these from Amazon had the same issue. I know a lot of companies sell on Amazon just have their knives sent from the factory to Amazon and Amazon fulfills their orders and handles returns. So, I'm thinking Amazon might have a bad batch considering both knives I got from there had the same exact issue.
 
mcrow said:
Yes, double washer on the one side, other side looks like a plastic washer.

I did return the first one I received like this and this one is the replacement. So two knives, the same issue. I think there's an issue with a whole batch they made. I contacted one of their reps directly and they're going to check with the factory on it. Just wasn't sure if anyone else who ordered these from Amazon had the same issue. I know a lot of companies sell on Amazon just have their knives sent from the factory to Amazon and Amazon fulfills their orders and handles returns. So, I'm thinking Amazon might have a bad batch considering both knives I got from there had the same exact issue.
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gotcha. yeah help if i read the whole post instead of just staring at the pic. yeah 2 in a row aint good odds. weird the pic makes the other side shine like its got a bronze type washer in there too.
 
If I had a guess I think the notch on the tang is not cut correctly so it's not allowing the bar to come over and lock in or the bar itself is milled too long.

In this pick you can see the misfit of the blade to the bar, still overlapping when blade is fully deployed.

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I've had a few lemons from QSP. Either I have exceptionally bad luck, or their QC isn't exceptionally good.
 
Chronovore said:
I've had a few lemons from QSP. Either I have exceptionally bad luck, or their QC isn't exceptionally good.
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Even good manufacturers have a lemon now and then but wasn't expecting two back-to-back with the same issue. They seemed to be a newer brand that's very popular and the knife looks great, if not for the lock not working it would be a great little knife.
 
I have a Parrot D2 ..
The lock engages about 1/3 on mine but holds ..
Also was a Uber soft lock , SO I disassembled it and bent the liner to tighten the lock ..
Might engage a little more now .. ( More liner tension )

Does the lock hold ?
 
mcrow said:
Even good manufacturers have a lemon now and then but wasn't expecting two back-to-back with the same issue. They seemed to be a newer brand that's very popular and the knife looks great, if not for the lock not working it would be a great little knife.
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QSP has been around for at least a few years. The first knife I had from them was a total fail with multiple issues. Then when the Penguin debuted at a special price on Massdrop, I tried again. It was actually decent and a definite win for $20. Then I got a Parrot. It was bad, with more than one issue. I later tried a Leopard and it was an instant return. The detent wasn't just weak, it was practically absent. The last QSP I tried was a Gannet. It wasn't great but a little tinkering set it straight.

Could it just be bad luck? Sure. Will I be in a hurry to give them yet another chance? No. Look, I understand that things happen. Even WE or Kizer can occasionally biff it. (I've had over a dozen knives from WE. Once, I had one with a really weak detent and I needed to exchange it.) This is different though. QSP has joined Artisan in my "all set, thanks" category due to multiple lemons.
 
I only have one QSP, the Snipe, but the quality of the fit and finish is superb on this particular knife. Just my 2c
 
That is a bummer man. I hate when you get a new knife and its disappointing. I had something similar happen to me with a kizer begleiter. I took the knife apart and sanded the liner part of the lock until it would engage the tang better. I then forcefully snapped the knife open a couple hundred times until it would engage securely when open. Its kinda a jank fix but I haven't had any issues since.
 
This is concerning since this is both a manufacturing issue and a QC issue at the same time. The locking interface shouldnt be able to be that far out of spec to begin with and QC simply doesn't exist or didn't look at these since Does the Lock Engage? should be top of their checklist.
The fact that you have the issue on two samples means it wasn't an anomaly either.

Single anecdotes to the contrary do not disprove this, sadly.

Thanks for posting this is good information. I personally will be avoiding products from this company.
 
My video on it.

Safe to say not happy but going to give QSP a chance to fix it. Though the reports above showing problems with other knives isn't encouraging.


 
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I picked up a QSP Snipe a year or so ago, in blue.

It has a strange flex in the handle, but it hasn't caused any problems with the lock-up.

I just picked up another QSP, called the Hawk, in brown canvas micarta and Sandvik 14C28N.

There are no problems with this one at all.
 
GCG199 said:
I picked up a QSP Snipe a year or so ago, in blue.

It has a strange flex in the handle, but it hasn't caused any problems with the lock-up.

I just picked up another QSP, called the Hawk, in brown canvas micarta and Sandvik 14C28N.

There are no problems with this one at all.
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Just curious but what do you mean by a strange flex in the handle?

Mine seems solid.
 
Just pay extra and buy something from a US based brand. Cold Steels from Taiwan, etc. It's only a few extra bucks to get a good knife with a good warranty.
 
J85909266 said:
Just pay extra and buy something from a US based brand. Cold Steels from Taiwan, etc. It's only a few extra bucks to get a good knife with a good warranty.
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I have much, much more expensive knives but saw this one and like the looks of it and it has decent steel too. I own a ton of Buck knives, a few Cold Steel, Spyderco...etc. So I'm familiar with the better-known brands but I like to take a look at a new brand sometimes too. The only reason I bought it outside of it looking nice was the reviews I saw on QSP didn't mention any issues and they were well built. So the idea with the thread was to see if I'm just unlucky or if the QC isn't great for this company. There are some good Chinese brands that have higher standards too.
 
mcrow said:
I have much, much more expensive knives but saw this one and like the looks of it and it has decent steel too. I own a ton of Buck knives, a few Cold Steel, Spyderco...etc. So I'm familiar with the better-known brands but I like to take a look at a new brand sometimes too. The only reason I bought it outside of it looking nice was the reviews I saw on QSP didn't mention any issues and they were well built. So the idea with the thread was to see if I'm just unlucky or if the QC isn't great for this company. There are some good Chinese brands that have higher standards too.
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There are a bunch of good brands coming out of China. QSP just isn't one of them based on my experience.

I have no qualms in recommending WE, Kizer, Bestech, Petrified Fish, TwoSun if you like thicker blade stock, or even Harnds on the low end. In my actual experience, having owned more than five knives from each company, QSP and Artisan both have worse QC than Ganzo.
 
Chronovore said:
There are a bunch of good brands coming out of China. QSP just isn't one of them based on my experience.

I have no qualms in recommending WE, Kizer, Bestech, Petrified Fish, TwoSun if you like thicker blade stock, or even Harnds on the low end. In my actual experience, having owned more than five knives from each company, QSP and Artisan both have worse QC than Ganzo.
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Yeah, I haven't had issues with Ganzo. I think it's more hit and miss than the US and European makers but there are good Chinese brands too.
 
chalby said:
Just curious but what do you mean by a strange flex in the handle?

Mine seems solid.
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There is flex in the handle when griping the knife handle, but it hasn't caused any problems so far.

When holding the knife, there is some kind of movement in it.

I can't figure out what it is though.

It hasn't caused any problems with the lock-up at all.
 
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