Question about Atomic Watches

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Does anyone know if atomic watches have a setting for the Alaskan Time Zone? Before I moved here I gave my atomic alarm clock away because it only had settings for the four continental time zones. I am interested in buying a Casio Pathfinder watch that is solar and atomic, but I don't know if they have our time zone or not. I've tried looking on the net and it seems that atomic clocks as a whole are only made for the continental US.

Appreciate any help!
 
I'm not sure that the transmissions used are even receivable in Alaska.
 
They receive signals from Fort Collins Colorado. Not sure if the signals make it to Alaska. Try searching Casios sight for the owners manual of the watch you are interested in.
 
I will send an e-mail to their customer service. I figured there would be enough gadgeteers here that someone would be bound to know. Thanks though....
 
I wear a Casio Atomic G-Shock here in NY, I get the signal no prob. Is Alaska even further than NY from Ft Collins?
I am able to adjust and have atime setting for all times zones around the globe, including Anchorage, Alaska.

Hope that helps
 
scarysharp, thanks for the response. Actually you have both helped and confused me more (not your fault). It's interesting that your watch has a setting for Anchorage. I called Casio customer service today and the drone I talked to said they did NOT work in Alaska (because it was too far away). That didn't make much sense though because I know there are watches, such as yours, that have global settings. To answer your question, Fort Collins is about 2400 miles from Juneau and about 1600 miles from Syracuse. So we are definitely further away. Check this out:

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The watch I am looking at is a higher end Pathfinder. Since there is only one way to know for sure, I might just go ahead and pull the trigger. I guess I can always return it if it doesn't work.
 
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I didn't think so. The radio signals used are on 60KHz and it takes a lot of transmitter power to propagate them. Most of these watches and clocks only set themselves at night because radio noise from the sun is stronger than the radio signal from the transmitter in many places which gives you some idea of how difficult it is for these signals. You will also find that if you journey to Europe, your watch will not set itself there (it will "hold over" on its last setting and probably remain within about +/-1 second/month). Similar watches sold in Europe will similarly not work here. The signals are different.
 
I checked my manual for my Casio Reverse PAW1300Y-1VCR LCD Atomic Pathfinder and it appears that you might be unsuccessful in receiving a signal in the last frontier.

Grid coverage from the Casio manual
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Having said that, they are great watches and may still be worth a shot based on the National Institute of Technology & Science website where they mention reports of successful signal reception from radio controlled time pieces in Alaska due to low noise interference.

Citation: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/radioclocks.cfm
These maps are based on a field strength of 100 microvolts per meter, which in theory should be a large enough signal for most receivers to work with. In fact, some receivers have much better sensitivity (20 or 30 microvolts per meter). However, simply having a large signal doesn't mean that the receiver will work. What really matters is the signal-to-noise ratio, or the size of the signal compared to the size of the electrical noise near the same frequency. Raising the noise level is just as harmful as reducing the signal level. For example, if the radio controlled clock is near a source of interference (like a computer monitor) the noise level will increase, and the clock might not be able to synchronize. If the radio controlled clock is in a building with a metal roof, much of the signal will be blocked. Therefore, the signal level will be reduced, and the clock might not be able to synchronize.

Therefore, use the coverage maps as a rough indicator only. We have heard from many owners of radio controlled clocks whose clocks do not work inside the coverage area shown on the maps. This is probably due to a local source of interference. We have also heard several reports from Alaska that the clocks work fine, even though Alaska is outside the coverage area shown on the maps. This is probably due to the low amount of radio “background” noise found in a sparsely populated area.
 
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According to Usagee's map, I live very close to where the 2000 mile radius hits. Google Earth puts me at 2200 miles. And scarysharp says his watch has a time zone setting for Anchorage. Sounds like if it works it will be barely.
 
I called Casio customer service today and the drone I talked to said they did NOT work in Alaska (because it was too far away). That didn't make much sense though because I know there are watches, such as yours, that have global settings.
Not relevant. The watch is made with settings for all 24 time zones, whether they can receive a signal from Colorado or not.
 
You will also find that if you journey to Europe, your watch will not set itself there (it will "hold over" on its last setting and probably remain within about +/-1 second/month). Similar watches sold in Europe will similarly not work here. The signals are different.

People complained about that so much there are now watches on the market that can receive multiple frequencies.

By the way, +/-1 second/month is optimistic.
 
according to my pathfinder instructions,there is a city code for Anchorage,they have settings from -11gmt to +12gmt
 
I have a pathfinder as well. Great watch. I love mine. It's awesome to be able to see what the weather is doing with the barometer. Even if the watch doesn't set itself automatically, you can go to the nist website and set it to the atomic clock manually easy enough.

http://www.time.gov/
 
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