I'd love to meet the person who manages to convince Nathan to do something for only money. Hey, I have $2k, can I order a Shiv? How about $10k for a dagger?
You're assuming supply is unlimited. I know the supply is limited. If the supply was unlimited we wouldn't be arguing about this, right?
I'll bet you $5 you're wrong. Hell make it $10.
See above, supply is limited and this is a desirable item. If we disagree on such a foundational issue I hesitate to continue this line of conversation since it will be exceedingly unproductive.
I think this runs counter to CPK's (often stated) focus which is highest value for the money in an item meant to be used. CPK also don't attract many folks of the "active secondary market" persuasion.
This is mostly straw man and arguing the exception.
I didn’t say “something only for money”.
Last I checked there were Friday sales, not Friday give aways. Money is a critical part of the equation.
Yes, if you post you will pay $2000 for a Shiv I promise you will have one offered to you tonight, and CPK made it. You might even get a wood handle.
If you want a project knife then yes you can email him and offer him $10,000 and if he is so inclined to agree to your terms then you may end up with one.
Maybe the line is already too long. I haven’t been around enough recently to know if there is a project in the works, but I know the last one took years to come to fruition and that’s basically how the deal was done.
If you want to argue the exception that no one can make him do anything strictly for money, well that’s a stupid argument. I bet you can get him to do something for only money.
Take your above example. Offer him your $10,000 for a project knife and if he declines, change only the money variable by offering him more till he agrees. I promise you will come up with an amount he will agree to if you keep going up.
He has a business to run, employees to pay and a family to raise. Money is essential to this equation. I bet he’ll make any knife you want for the right price. Offer him $1,000,000. Sounds stupid? Well that’s arguing the exception.
Nathan has done several re-run of patterns based on popular demand, while some patterns have not been revisited. Production numbers have gone up massively over the last few years.
Some of those patterns were discontinued because he was bored of making them, he had other projects he wanted to move on to and sometimes some aspect of the necessary tooling was gone or altered.
Nathan’s stated goal for a long time was to reach the point of having stock on the shelf ready to fulfill an order. His intention was never stated as limited runs of exclusives. I think the best example of that is the FK2.
For a while flippers were a huge problem, but when was the last time you saw a FK2 flipped for a profit?
What was the asking price the last time you saw a D2 skinner for sale?
Why do you think there is a difference there?
If your conclusion is there will only be 40 of these specific daggers because Nathan said they were inefficient to make, what factors did he consider when drawing that conclusion?
If you think he didn’t consider how much he thinks they are worth, I’d bet you are wrong.
I’ll paraphrase here, but Nathan said basically that the reason he doesn’t want his knives priced too high is the increased expectations at the increased price point. He doesn’t want someone to be disappointed with the value of the purchase.
The market price discovery issue has been discussed here for years.
edit: I’m not speaking for Nathan. I’m just making predictions based on my observations.