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Hmmm...
So am I the only one that finds this odd?
So am I the only one that finds this odd?
Hmmm...
So am I the only one that finds this odd?
No. It was mentioned many times the first time reate started posting on this forum about their knives. Its been speculated that Reate is Adai. Adai is responsible for many of the higher end ZT clones as well as clones of custom knives. One thing is for sure, they either Adai and Reate are the same company, or reate simply designs knives and uses adai as its manufacturer. Either way the latest Reate knives have changed to a solid pivot with out the ZT influence. It was though along with the handle pattern one of the first clues that hinted to the connection with Adai. Its not known if they did this on purpose since Adai has an underground following and people familiar with them would have an understanding of what kind of quality Reate is building knives at or if it was a complete and total misstep. My feelings are how could they NOT know people would catch on.
Red flags all over the place!
I'm glad to know that...
Well truth be told I fully support Reate. Even if they have a past or even current connection to Adai. The fact that they are only offering original designs in the USA and that they are willing to make the pivot change IMHO says they are making an effort to distance themselves from the clone image. If I were to sit and judge reate for any connection to clones I also would have to sit in judgment of myself for my past. I dont actively promote clone knives on the forums but I dont have a vendetta or hatred for them and thats all i will say to that effect. With that said I simply believe in the truth and feel that the public deserves that and is free to make up their own minds as to who they will buy from. Whether its the truth about a reate/adai connection to being truthful as to the level of quality they product product which some dont want to admit is amazingly high. Its simply the truth, which is all I am interested in.
By the time I discovered Reate knives, and having read everything I could, I searched high and low and couldn't find the Horizon A. Then yesterday, BladeHQ listed it, and as of this moment, it's still available. I love the shape and size of the blade, and the price is unbelievable for what your getting. I would not want a clone or anything that wasn't legit. I would think this Forum would not permit this. David, just keep doing what you're doing.
By the time I discovered Reate knives, and having read everything I could, I searched high and low and couldn't find the Horizon A. Then yesterday, BladeHQ listed it, and as of this moment, it's still available. I love the shape and size of the blade, and the price is unbelievable for what your getting. I would not want a clone or anything that wasn't legit. I would think this Forum would not permit this. David, just keep doing what you're doing.
No. It was mentioned many times the first time reate started posting on this forum about their knives. Its been speculated that Reate is Adai. Adai is responsible for many of the higher end ZT clones as well as clones of custom knives. One thing is for sure, they either Adai and Reate are the same company, or reate simply designs knives and uses adai as its manufacturer. Either way the latest Reate knives have changed to a solid pivot with out the ZT influence. It was though along with the handle pattern one of the first clues that hinted to the connection with Adai. Its not known if they did this on purpose since Adai has an underground following and people familiar with them would have an understanding of what kind of quality Reate is building knives at or if it was a complete and total misstep. My feelings are how could they NOT know people would catch on.
An interesting thing about the d9 is that every edge corner of the blade including the flipper trigger is slightly radiused,so it looks slightly thinner than it really is. its a pretty cool feature that im sure takes extra work .it shows an attention to detail that they didn't have to do if they wanted to save time and labor...
Thanks for speaking up for Reate. We don't want to explain this more here because we already had explained it at the beginning. We can't stop people having different opinions, but we can do our best on our side.
So what is your side? Is some other Chinese company ripping off your milling patterns and pivot designs? I'm pretty confused...
The writing is on the wall, and my opinion is pretty clear that you are a very "behind the scenes" company. Why don't you show us some pictures of your shop? Let's see a tour of what goes on there... If I setup a conference with Crucible Industries would they vouch for you that your blade materials are authentic?
I'd love to hear more about the history of "Reate" and how you setup your company...
Nobody just pops up out of nowhere with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of machinery and materials...
I find it amusing how Chinese companies are continuously held to such a discriminatory standard as was with Japanese companies in the not too distant past. Get over it people and stop stereotyping. It's a global economy and knifemaking is not rocket science. Competition from China will only enhance available quality knives from everywhere. History is long term...
The title of the thread is "Reate Knives-Users' opinion and collections".
Yea? And?
I have a different opinion...