Recommendation: heavy machete/bush knife with stabbing profile?

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mickb

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Hi guys, I'm a member of myarmoury.com and some sword forum sites who suggested I ask here. Nice forum btw!

I am trying to find a production item or find someone to make something along the lines of a large heavy bush knife, heavy machete that can also stab.


14-16" blade
3mm+, preferably 4mm or more thick.
Good for machete like work tasks
A spear tip or 'stabby any other type' of tip.
Can be heavy as hell, 2lbs no problem.
Decent steel and heat treat
Can be historic, modern, swordlike or even zombified concept.

wish condor made something like this as I like their steel, but their jungle sabres are just a bit lightweight and the combat machette just a bit short...

Cold steel I am not a fan of generally.

Thanks for any other suggestions
 
mickb said:
Hi guys, I'm a member of myarmoury.com and some sword forum sites who suggested I ask here. Nice forum btw!

I am trying to find a production item or find someone to make something along the lines of a large heavy bush knife, heavy machete that can also stab.


14-16" blade
3mm+, preferably 4mm or more thick.
Good for machete like work tasks
A spear tip or 'stabby any other type' of tip.
Can be heavy as hell, 2lbs no problem.
Decent steel and heat treat
Can be historic, modern, swordlike or even zombified concept.

wish condor made something like this
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Condor does make something like that, look at their Barong machete. 14 inch blade, pointed tip, little over 4mm thick, 1.35 pounds.
 
Just a touch on the short side, but take a look at Becker BK21, SYKCO 1311, and BRKT Bravo3. There's also the ZT Rat Bastard (while it isn't exactly stabby, there is a pointed tip)
The Rodent Rucki (by SwampRat) is in your size range...though I personally prefer the Waki.
Of course, for a lot less money, you could get one of several brands of machetes in your desired length that meet your thickness requirement

The Tops Machete .230 might just tick all the right boxes for you. Here are the specs:
O/A Length: 22 1/2"
Handle Length: 6 3/4"
Blade Length: 15 3/4"
Thickness: 1/8"
Steel: 1095 High Carbon Steel
Handle:Black Linen Micarta
Blade Color:Ash Gray
Sheath: Ballistic Nylon with 2 Bellows Pockets 6" Long
 
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If you really want stabby, it would be hard to beat the Cold Steel Gladius machete. I'm not a CS fanboy, but that one as hard to pass up.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Condor Barong Machete.
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This ^^.

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I can't think of many uses personally for a stabby machete, but the thin barong tip will indeed work for that. I think traditionally they're used on relatively light material, with a pretty hefty distal taper. So the length and thin tip makes it work great on grasses and the like.

I may be wrong on the traditional uses (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I'd love to know, but I was having a hard time finding anything concrete online in the few minutes I spent searching)... but thats the first design I could think of that has a blade that is "stabby".
 
ocnLogan said:
This ^^.

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I can't think of many uses personally for a stabby machete, but the thin barong tip will indeed work for that. I think traditionally they're used on relatively light material, with a pretty hefty distal taper. So the length and thin tip makes it work great on grasses and the like.

I may be wrong on the traditional uses (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I'd love to know, but I was having a hard time finding anything concrete online in the few minutes I spent searching)... but thats the first design I could think of that has a blade that is "stabby".
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A fair amount of traditional use was on people, so that may have contributed to the pointy tip. ;)
 
I'd go the Condor engineers bole. It has a 20", 1095 blade, that is .1875" thick. It is a bit longer tan you specified.

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Aranyik Trading Company Enep - 5160, differential heat treat, convex edge, 19.5" total length, 7" handle, 3/16" wide, 2 lbs, 38.5$ I think includes shipping to mainland USA (from Hawaii).

(Picture stolen, model is somewhat older. I think the handle was modded as well, usually it's Eucalyptus. If you search on their page for the catalog, you'll see a typical one. Mine has a 3 inch belly.)
 
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Thanks guys I am working my way through the suggestions and had some questions.

The condor barong, Cold steel in general and kershaw camp knives had dubious reviews on quality/strength that I saw. Would this be accurate?
(I have been spoiled possibly by using an 18" OKC machete in the past which seemed indestructible, I actually used it for work purposes clearing fencelines in rainforest). Though i am not looking to put this machete to serious work, still after something very strong.

The kershaw in particular looks good, is it OKC/Condor quality?

The rucki looks awesome but a bit out of the price range unfortunately. That is sort of what I am aiming for actually, the shape and profile, more of a long heavy knife than machette style.
I may have to adjust my budget upward though.
 
I've heard nothing but good things about condor machetes, although I have no experience with them.

The Kershaw doesn't seem to have as many users talking about them. I've seen a few owners mention them, but haven't really seen anything about reliability one way or the other. However, isn't the camp series done in D2? Personally I think I'd feel more comfortable with the condor, but having not owned/used either , I realize that my thoughts might not carry much weight :p.

Good luck finding something that works for you.
 
ocnLogan said:
I've heard nothing but good things about condor machetes, although I have no experience with them.

The Kershaw doesn't seem to have as many users talking about them. I've seen a few owners mention them, but haven't really seen anything about reliability one way or the other. However, isn't the camp series done in D2? Personally I think I'd feel more comfortable with the condor, but having not owned/used either , I realize that my thoughts might not carry much weight :p.

Good luck finding something that works for you.
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Camp series is in 65Mn which, if memory serves, is about equivalent to 1065. Just based on steel and stock thickness I would expect either one to be stronger than an Ontario, but the only one I've used is the Barong machete.
 
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