Refillable lighter other than Zippo?

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I hate disposable stuff. Hate disposable lighters. But, they can sit in the bottom of a pack, or get washed up on a beach and FLICK they work.

Love me my Zippo. Really do. Except when I take it out of my pack and find all the fuel has evaporated away.

Looking for a lighter that can be refilled like a Zippo but can go long periods of just sitting unused like a Bic.

I don't need laser like flames. Something like a Zippo flame is fine. Just needs to be able to be stores long times.
 
The old ww1 lighters held their fluid pretty well. Really the best ones that hold fuel like a bic are the Zippo refillable butane inserts. Replaces the regular guts of the zippo with a butane insert and you can refill it from a bottle.
 
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Love my Vector Thunderbird Insert.Butane in my favorite Zippo case.:thumbup:
Takes a flint,adjustable flame,as wind proof as a fluid Zippo. (in my experience, just have to cup it like the standard Zippo in the wind) No leakage and the warranty is great.
I had a fuel lever fail & I sent it in & got a new one no questions asked.

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I like the Ronson JetLite. Unfortunately we can't get them in the UK so I have to import them.

It's butane, has a jet flame, seems to hold its gas well and is reliable. The only issue I have had with them not lighting at first click is when just filled - I guess the gas pressure is a little too high to ignite. Let gas out for a couple of seconds and it then lights up OK from then on.

I last ordered some about five years ago and they are all still going strong. I gave a few away and kept three myself.

Having a jet flame is quite useful - I can even invert the lighter and point it into the kindling.
 
I have the Thunderbird insert for my pipe zippo, and I have to say it works quite well. I also have the JetLite (got it for $3 at Wallyworld), and it too is going strong after a few years. It's my default backcountry lighter. I love the flame, won't go out in the wind. Very handy.
 
Peanuts, as mentioned above, can be good:

I have one that lives on my keyring. On the plus side it doesn't seem to leak much at all. It isn't a lighter I take much notice of because it is just an emergency tool. It bounces about amongst all the other crap that's on my keyring day in day out for months at a time before I think “yeah, wonder if that needs a top up”. And that's usually only because I catch a glimpse of it out the corner of my eye whilst filling something else. Invariably it doesn't need anything. Another plus is that the brutal simplicity of it means it can run on a wide range of stuff if I was really in a pinch. The bad is that because they are crude [you could make one with a bit of mop pushed through a hole], and that they run on unpressurized liquid fuel, they are far from efficient. Add in the weeny size and they aren't the kind of user friendly thing one would want to use with any regularity. In short; the simple, strong, idiot proof backup is why I have one as a fill and forget jobbie. It would be a very poor primary tool.

I too think Ronson makes a good lighter, but I move in a different direction to the torch flame ones:

The Ronson ones might be fantastic for all I know but there are two reasons why I won't go that way. First, I've owned a lot of torch flame type lighters from the couple of quid market efforts to others I paid about £50 for. For sure some are better than others. Some have multiple jets rather than a single one. Some have a pair of wire elements that cross the jet stream rather than just one or none. But the short version is, not one of them lasted more than a year or so. It doesn't seem to matter whether they have generic jets inside or something that looks proprietary, they don't survive me very well.

Additionally, I can't abide that piezo ignition business. It might be good for a bit but it is a distinct weak spot. I lost count long ago of the amount of times I used a spark from a different source to ignite a lighter 'cos the piezo either stopped working or no longer shorted in the required direction to ignite the gas. Roll this up together with the jet flame action above and I'm done with these. I'm at the point now at which, regardless of price, I think “cheapo non-user-serviceable-parts that may be in a fancy shell”. The world seems to love them for their convenience and I am out of step. The price for that convenience is a very short honeymoon period followed by “you too huh”.

Where I'm at with the Ronsons is distinctly old school in what can inaccurately yet usefully be described as the Rollagas action. Essentially, it has a conventional flint loaded into a familiar sprung loaded magazine mechanism, and a big long wheel to rotate the grinder that abrades it. Simple and serviceable. Pop the lid and it will eject gas 'till you close it, so there's your candle mode. No need to keep a finger on a gas release button. And the flame is variable. For sure crud will eventually build up in the gas nozzle, it's the nature of the beast with any of these sorts of lighter be it a Dunhill or a Clipper / Bic, but it is serviceable. If you can't do it yourself there are plenty of places that will do it for you.

Entry level for this club would be the Ronson Aurora. It's a simple, solid workhorse device. Don't necessarily limit yourself to those though. This feeds back to the “Rollagas style”. Probably the most well known heavy hitter there are the Dunhills, but you will pay over the tool value because they are very collectable. I've bought a couple of Dunhills for my woman 'cos she like that kind of thing but I can't say they are any better than the Ronsons or Pierre Cardins I've bought her, as tools.

So, have a plot up on the Rollagas style to expand on what I said, and if you want to by new look at the Ronson Aurora. That said, there's a second hand store near me that often has much older and more expensive ones for a very good price. Unfortunately, because of their age many of them are obnoxiously styled to my eye and makes one look like a cigar smoking mong from a golf course with a good pinch of '70s Del Boy thrown in. If you can get past that you can probably pick up a fantastic mechanism for silly cheap.
 
Peanuts, as mentioned above, can be good:

I have one that lives on my keyring. On the plus side it doesn't seem to leak much at all. It isn't a lighter I take much notice of because it is just an emergency tool. It bounces about amongst all the other crap that's on my keyring day in day out for months at a time before I think “yeah, wonder if that needs a top up”. And that's usually only because I catch a glimpse of it out the corner of my eye whilst filling something else. Invariably it doesn't need anything. Another plus is that the brutal simplicity of it means it can run on a wide range of stuff if I was really in a pinch. The bad is that because they are crude [you could make one with a bit of mop pushed through a hole], and that they run on unpressurized liquid fuel, they are far from efficient. Add in the weeny size and they aren't the kind of user friendly thing one would want to use with any regularity. In short; the simple, strong, idiot proof backup is why I have one as a fill and forget jobbie. It would be a very poor primary tool.

I too think Ronson makes a good lighter, but I move in a different direction to the torch flame ones:

The Ronson ones might be fantastic for all I know but there are two reasons why I won't go that way. First, I've owned a lot of torch flame type lighters from the couple of quid market efforts to others I paid about £50 for. For sure some are better than others. Some have multiple jets rather than a single one. Some have a pair of wire elements that cross the jet stream rather than just one or none. But the short version is, not one of them lasted more than a year or so. It doesn't seem to matter whether they have generic jets inside or something that looks proprietary, they don't survive me very well.

Additionally, I can't abide that piezo ignition business. It might be good for a bit but it is a distinct weak spot. I lost count long ago of the amount of times I used a spark from a different source to ignite a lighter 'cos the piezo either stopped working or no longer shorted in the required direction to ignite the gas. Roll this up together with the jet flame action above and I'm done with these. I'm at the point now at which, regardless of price, I think “cheapo non-user-serviceable-parts that may be in a fancy shell”. The world seems to love them for their convenience and I am out of step. The price for that convenience is a very short honeymoon period followed by “you too huh”.

Where I'm at with the Ronsons is distinctly old school in what can inaccurately yet usefully be described as the Rollagas action. Essentially, it has a conventional flint loaded into a familiar sprung loaded magazine mechanism, and a big long wheel to rotate the grinder that abrades it. Simple and serviceable. Pop the lid and it will eject gas 'till you close it, so there's your candle mode. No need to keep a finger on a gas release button. And the flame is variable. For sure crud will eventually build up in the gas nozzle, it's the nature of the beast with any of these sorts of lighter be it a Dunhill or a Clipper / Bic, but it is serviceable. If you can't do it yourself there are plenty of places that will do it for you.

Entry level for this club would be the Ronson Aurora. It's a simple, solid workhorse device. Don't necessarily limit yourself to those though. This feeds back to the “Rollagas style”. Probably the most well known heavy hitter there are the Dunhills, but you will pay over the tool value because they are very collectable. I've bought a couple of Dunhills for my woman 'cos she like that kind of thing but I can't say they are any better than the Ronsons or Pierre Cardins I've bought her, as tools.

So, have a plot up on the Rollagas style to expand on what I said, and if you want to by new look at the Ronson Aurora. That said, there's a second hand store near me that often has much older and more expensive ones for a very good price. Unfortunately, because of their age many of them are obnoxiously styled to my eye and makes one look like a cigar smoking mong from a golf course with a good pinch of '70s Del Boy thrown in. If you can get past that you can probably pick up a fantastic mechanism for silly cheap.

Thanks for the intel on that Ronson. I too have been frustrated in the past with PE ignition systems. I'm quite surprised that my Ronson has lasted as long as it has, TBH. That Aurora looks to be a nice option, I'll probably pick one up. I'm assuming no issues with evaporation, given that it's butane. Big tank, or no? I hate butane lighters with small tanks, that you need to fill every few days.
 
Thanks for the intel on that Ronson. I too have been frustrated in the past with PE ignition systems. I'm quite surprised that my Ronson has lasted as long as it has, TBH. That Aurora looks to be a nice option, I'll probably pick one up. I'm assuming no issues with evaporation, given that it's butane. Big tank, or no? I hate butane lighters with small tanks, that you need to fill every few days.

Mah pleasure.

I don't know the capacity, and there's too many variables to guess at working duration. I'm miles away from her little collection at the moment or I'd take a pic. I'd say that whilst they aren't giant they are good man size nuggets. She has a pair of Pierre Cardins that I'd peg as ladies or fine suit size that probably hold .5-.75 as much.

Just for the hell of notes: They also come in a pipe smokers version that may be beneficial depending on what you're burning.
 
Mah pleasure.

I don't know the capacity, and there's too many variables to guess at working duration. I'm miles away from her little collection at the moment or I'd take a pic. I'd say that whilst they aren't giant they are good man size nuggets. She has a pair of Pierre Cardins that I'd peg as ladies or fine suit size that probably hold .5-.75 as much.

Just for the hell of notes: They also come in a pipe smokers version that may be beneficial depending on what you're burning.

Thanks. I think I'll have to pick up one of each. Now to find a US retailer.
 
Thanks. I think I'll have to pick up one of each. Now to find a US retailer.

Cool.

Just to be absolutely clear then as you are going live on this. The Aurora is a decent sized example for a lighter of this type, hence my comparison to those Cardins. Be in no doubt though, they are a good bit smaller than a Zippo. With gloves on you may well need two handed operation initially, just to hold it and flip the lid.
 
Cool.

Just to be absolutely clear then as you are going live on this. The Aurora is a decent sized example for a lighter of this type, hence my comparison to those Cardins. Be in no doubt though, they are a good bit smaller than a Zippo. With gloves on you may well need two handed operation initially, just to hold it and flip the lid.

I hear ya. Thanks for pointing that out. So far, I've found a few online, but seems like they are all shipping from the UK, and shipping costs are outrageous. May be a while longer before I pick one up (like maybe the next time I go to England!).
 
I hear ya. Thanks for pointing that out. So far, I've found a few online, but seems like they are all shipping from the UK, and shipping costs are outrageous. May be a while longer before I pick one up (like maybe the next time I go to England!).

Yeah, I get clobbered something shocking getting stuff from your side. I often don't put up with it on principle. I see than even an *bay one with free shipping wants $6 more than the base price of the one on Amazon that wants $16 to ship. Nasty.

Happy trails whatever you decide.
 
A little late to the party here, but the NuMyth lighters may fill the bill for the specs requested by the OP. They are a little larger than the peanut lighters from CountyComm, and seem to have more substantial O-rings. I've had one in a pack for a year without filling and it lit right up the other day. Not real convenient, though, for frequent use. More of a stow-it-and-forget-it lighter, an over-sized peanut. I know Going Gear carries them, and he's a member here, storl.
 
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