Remm. 11-87 plug

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Buck268

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Not so much of a question, but more of a surpise. Took my 12ga 11-87 Premier duck hunting this past weekend (first time) and found out, to my great suprise, the plug did not facilitate a 2+1 capacity for 3" shells! I guess I can see why they might have designed the plug for 2 3/4 inchers, but who the heck goes waterfowling with 2 3/4" shells in a gun that fires 3"? Despite how well this shotgun has been to be and how much a like it, this is a glaring oversight by remminton and I am truely dissapointed. I wonder if they would send me a plug for 3" shells?
 
I can't remember what my Remington plug is like, but I made one for my Winchester Defender with a piece of wooden dowling, took about 30 seconds !
 
Yup, thats what I ended up doing as well, but after every other mag's worth of shooting I noticed the end cap backed off a little and had to be snugged down... hardly ideal!
 
Buck, call or write to Remington and explain your problem. I'll bet they will send you a shorter magazine plug at no charge, but you could make one easily using some half-inch dowel, just cut it maybe half an inch shorter than your existing plug. I presume you know how to remove and reinstall the plug. That 11-87 should be a fine shotgun.
 
Sure is a fine shotgun; I've had it since I was 15 years old and it has yet to let me down (well except for the plug). check my above post regarding DIY dowel-plug, though.

I do have a web question in the works though, we'll see what they say.
 
Hey Guys....

Buck...

If you are using wooden dowel, make sure you taper the ends of the dowel..
What can happen when you are loading shells into the mag, the dowel can catch on the side of the spring and hang up the round going in..

Spin your dowel on a belt grinder, or simply sharpen by hand with a knife and smooth it with sandpaper...

ttyle

Eric
O/ST
 
I put a couple of boxes through her with a square-ended dowel, and like I said hte only problem was the mag end cap backing off every couple of mags. I did smooth and chamfer the ends with the file on my spirit though, so that may have helped.
 
I also have one I made from an aluminium rod, screwed to the end of the rod is a larger diameter piece of alum 1/4" thick and the OD same diameter as the ID of the magazine tube, this fits down the mag tube but on top of the spring clip that holds the main mag spring in place, this prevents the plug from falling down the tube and rattling around, again this is for a Defender, I can't remember if the Remington has the same sort of clip to hold the spring in place.
 
I guess I can see why they might have designed the plug for 2 3/4 inchers, but who the heck goes waterfowling with 2 3/4" shells in a gun that fires 3"
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I've heard a folks on the net say that they have had conservation officers check their weapons with 2.75" shells even though they were using 3" shells. Having the more prohibitive plug prevents any problems if you run into the law.
 
Check whether that gun is chambered for 3" shells.

If you don't have the equipment to check it take it to a gunshop. They will happily check it for you and if it isn't they can rechamber it for a small fee.

Just because it can hold and fire 3" shells does not mean it's chambered for them. Firing 3" shells in a short chambered barrel causes overpressure that can be dangerous and will definitely blow hell out of your shot pattern.
 
Dr. Mudd said:
but you could make one easily using some half-inch dowel, just cut it maybe half an inch shorter than your existing plug.
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Or a field expedient method:
#2 Ticonderoga pencil (with eraser) perfectly makes a Mossberg 500 legal. Going strong since 1990!
 
Instead of spending money going to a gun shop to find out what chambering your gun has, read the stamping on the barrel, since 1964 all guns have to be stamped with the chambering. Federal law.

As for the plug, if its the green plastic thing, you have it in upside down, and the fat end is not entering the end cap/shell follower. The flat end goes at the screw cap end of the mag tube. Common error.
 
Thanks for the concern about shell size, but rest assured it can handle both 2 3/4 and 3 inch loads (one of the reasons I like the 11-87).

I'm not an expereinced duck hunter by any means (grew up doing upland), but my uncle was saying they use a measuring device to check for plug. Besides, I doubt that you could fit more than two full 2 3/4 shells in there even with a plug for 3".
 
SIFU1A said:
arent all 11-87s 3"??
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I think that's right.

Seems like Remington makes a plug that will accomodate the 3" shells (2+1). I have a couple of 870s that I use for turkey and duck, respectively.
Plugged, they will both handle a 2+1 setup in a 3" shell.

Found it: Pull up this parts list, and scroll down to page 96. Part # 18097B. Magazine plug 12 GA (3 SHOT, 1 IN BBL, 2 IN MAG). http://www.remington.com/pdfs/rempartslist.pdf

There's also a magazine plug listed for a Super Mag (3.5" chamber).

Parts order form is here: http://www.remington.com/pdfs/PartsOrderForm.pdf

Source: http://www.remington.com/support/parts/
 
Buck268 said:
but my uncle was saying they use a measuring device to check for plug. Besides, I doubt that you could fit more than two full 2 3/4 shells in there even with a plug for 3".
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Here, they'll usually ask you to unload. Then you just hand over your gun and shells, and they'll check the mag capacity with your own shells. Actually never been checked when hunting duck or turkey, but I have been checked on a number of dove hunts.
 
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