just surfing internet looking at images of black ravens and came across site” Websta #rlambrachtaxe works Instagram photos . This guy makes black ravens and other embossed axes , he etches them , beware of I think all embossed axes for sale on websites . Just saw black raven on eBay with axe head I’ve only seen on hatchets not single bit . Not experienced enough to say for sure but after seeing this site and his reproductions I am now very learie of buying anything now !Also had pay pal refund my money from guy who sold me fake raven , this learning experience has made me do research before I make a decision to buy . Maybe some of you could take a look for yourself and let us know your thoughts on the ravens for sale on eBay if you see something that might make you question .
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Yes sir i hear you on the wary.If you want an axe too hang on the wall a peeling pattern or a wore out broadaxe will get you alot more thats cools than a picture of a bird i would think.
Thanks for sharing Rick I wasn't aware of this guy. Pretty scary stuff.
For others that need the link it is: https://www.instagram.com/rlambracht_axeworks/
He does etch his initials in the top left corner of the etching which is critical in doing this ethically but shocking that if he chose not too he could mislead a lot of people. Even if he sold it without initials but clearly stating they are reproductions whats stopping the buyer from on selling it as real. Could be a nightmare on the market, really get out of control depending on how many are made.
Can anyone explain to me how the process of etching one of these pictures onto an axe would go. I know nothing of the procedure. Do you put the image into a etching machine's computer and it just starts shaving off metal on whatever you put in front of it?
Would this guy need to have some smarts to do this or just deep pockets??
For others that need the link it is: https://www.instagram.com/rlambracht_axeworks/
He does etch his initials in the top left corner of the etching which is critical in doing this ethically but shocking that if he chose not too he could mislead a lot of people. Even if he sold it without initials but clearly stating they are reproductions whats stopping the buyer from on selling it as real. Could be a nightmare on the market, really get out of control depending on how many are made.
Can anyone explain to me how the process of etching one of these pictures onto an axe would go. I know nothing of the procedure. Do you put the image into a etching machine's computer and it just starts shaving off metal on whatever you put in front of it?
Would this guy need to have some smarts to do this or just deep pockets??
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Neither.
You just need enough money for some ferric chloride or muriatic (hydrochloric) acid, etc., and a resist. It's about as complicated as a 7th grade industrial arts class assignment.
Which is why it's so disturbing to me. *Anybody* can do this with almost no money or skill.
You just need enough money for some ferric chloride or muriatic (hydrochloric) acid, etc., and a resist. It's about as complicated as a 7th grade industrial arts class assignment.
Which is why it's so disturbing to me. *Anybody* can do this with almost no money or skill.
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This is disturbing and has been for some time now.
Please take your time and really look into a purchase from any site.
Try to make a connection with a seller or a few that offers good pieces, build trust, communicate before pulling the trigger...ask questions.
Dont get hung up on having to have it now...another will be posted for sale soon enough.
That said...the axe industry has been plagued with counterfeit, copied and misrepresented axes and their manufactures from the start...sadly.
Thank you R Rick Holt for the heads up and good topic to remind us all to be smart and mindful.
Please take your time and really look into a purchase from any site.
Try to make a connection with a seller or a few that offers good pieces, build trust, communicate before pulling the trigger...ask questions.
Dont get hung up on having to have it now...another will be posted for sale soon enough.
That said...the axe industry has been plagued with counterfeit, copied and misrepresented axes and their manufactures from the start...sadly.
Thank you R Rick Holt for the heads up and good topic to remind us all to be smart and mindful.
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Others may have been doing this for years.
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Ryan is about the only one who publicly etches reproductions, while stating and placing his initials in the etches he does, he also does not create that many of these, has probably been half a year to a year since he has made a fresh one, he mostly makes stellar axe handles instead. There may be others who create reproductions in secret, but I've yet to come across an etch that I felt truly stumped on, as far as reproduction or original goes.
If any of you are ever up in the air on it, feel free to shoot me a message. I also have an instagram account as I collect, restore and sell axes, 90% of them being the "embossed" ones. www.instagram.com/berensaxehouse I also have the ability to etch axe heads and have done so many times for people, typically new logos or designs, on the rare occasion I etch an axe with a "reproduction" logo, my company name replaces the original company name.
If any of you are ever up in the air on it, feel free to shoot me a message. I also have an instagram account as I collect, restore and sell axes, 90% of them being the "embossed" ones. www.instagram.com/berensaxehouse I also have the ability to etch axe heads and have done so many times for people, typically new logos or designs, on the rare occasion I etch an axe with a "reproduction" logo, my company name replaces the original company name.
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There are usually 2-12 black ravens for sale at any given time on ebay. I can't 100% be sure which item you are talking about? A head you've only seen on a hatchet? There is one Black Raven Hatchet for sale that ends in about an hour, currently sitting at $600. It's an uncommon one to be sure, but not a reproduction. I've seen similar, hatchets always carry the Round raven logo, full sized axes carry the Square raven logo, I've yet to see any that go against that rule. As far as Raven Hatchets go, it seems broad axe, and hammer head raven hatchets are a bit more common than the true hatchet-only heads. Part of why it may look odd.
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Does not look like a reproduction to me, just poorly restored. They filled the etching with yellow paint, sanded away the excess, then taped off the square and gun-blued or black paint on the rest of the head. Not sure why that's a popular route, I'm not big on that look. Still not 100% sure what you mean by "has head that I’ve only seen on a hatchet"
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I've had a Jersey Raven before, have seen about a dozen if not more, it's a more rare pattern for the Raven to be on, but not the most rare, I'd say the most uncommon pattern for a Raven is the Rockaway followed by the Puget or Collared Puget. That head has the Pre-1930s raven as well.
These are just pages for the single bits. (At the time the catalog was printed.)
These are just pages for the single bits. (At the time the catalog was printed.)
Thanks Squatch , good to have such knowledgeable people to help us with our lack of knowledge! Thanks to all for feed back . Too protect the value of the axe collectors investment we should alert members of fakes , they will only dilute the value , making people fearful of being ripped of .
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You know the old saying. "If it looks too good to be true it probably is". Usually you can tell, even if it's impeccable, the difference between a true nos and a reproduction. I'm sure that one could get it down to the point that you couldn't tell. Let's hope they get hit by a truck.
Oh and I'm still drooling looking at that paper ad. MAN i wish i could buy i new Connecticut pattern...
Oh and I'm still drooling looking at that paper ad. MAN i wish i could buy i new Connecticut pattern...
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I agree with your comment but can't bring myself to "like" it.
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It appears he is honest about it. He'll say "reproduction black raven"or things to that effect. I've seen that in the description on his Instagram. And i believe someone said he marks them somehow.
My problem is the next guy that may pass it off as real. It may be a good short term business decision but people that etch ravens and the like are RUINING this hobby for later years. I think they should make their own etch to their hearts content but leave the old ones alone. I don't believe there is any "responsible" way to do it. My two cents on it!
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I've had a Jersey Raven before, have seen about a dozen if not more, it's a more rare pattern for the Raven to be on, but not the most rare, I'd say the most uncommon pattern for a Raven is the Rockaway followed by the Puget or Collared Puget. That head has the Pre-1930s raven as well.
These are just pages for the single bits. (At the time the catalog was printed.)