Recommendation? Retirement gift advice & best way to engrave

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Hi everyone,

One of my coworkers is retiring soon, so we asked his wife what she thought he'd like. She recommended a pocket knife with his initials and years of service engraved on it. She said that he'll likely use the knife regularly. I was put in charge of selecting the knife because I'm known as the office "knife guy". The only problem is that I tend to really overthink things. So I'm asking for 2 different sets of recommendations: 1) knife selection and 2) engraving.

Knife selection
Originally when my co-worker's wife said that he'd like a pocket knife, my mind immediately went to GEC because of their timeless designs and excellent quality. Then when she told me that it will likely be a daily user, I started looking into modern traditionals with materials that are less prone to corrosion if neglected. I ended up ordering a Viper swayback jack from Collector Knives. It arrived and it's a great looking knife, but it just doesn't scream "retirement gift" to me the way a more classic GEC does, so I'm beginning to doubt my choice. I also have a GEC #44 Buffalo Jack on order for myself, as a belated father's day present... but it could be repurposed as a retirement gift, and another one ordered.

Which would you choose as the retirement gift?
  1. Collector Knives Viper swayback jack in stabilized grey oak
  2. GEC Northfield #44 Buffalo Jack in autumn gold jigged bone
  3. Something else that is readily available
Engraving
I have never had a knife engraved. Most of the pictures of engraved knives that I've seen are pretty unattractive. I haven't done much research, but from what i can tell, my options are either traditional engraving or laser engraving. In my opinion, laser engraving looks cheap. Which method would you recommend? Should all engraving be done on the blade or could some be on the bolsters?

Thanks in advance for any wisdom you are willing to provide!
 
I’m pretty sure I not the right guy to answer this but I’ve never let that stop me before...

I would go with something that represents the time he spent working towards this special place in life. While tougher to find I would source a traditional pocket knife made ( perhaps even made the year he started working) or at least popular when his career started. I of course am thinking medium stockman like a Case 18 pattern or Buck Cadet. Both timeless knives and relatively easy to find and affordable. There are of course many other patterns that would work for this as well I’m just a stockman guy.
 
I’m pretty sure I not the right guy to answer this but I’ve never let that stop me before...

I would go with something that represents the time he spent working towards this special place in life. While tougher to find I would source a traditional pocket knife made ( perhaps even made the year he started working) or at least popular when his career started. I of course am thinking medium stockman like a Case 18 pattern or Buck Cadet. Both timeless knives and relatively easy to find and affordable. There are of course many other patterns that would work for this as well I’m just a stockman guy.

Yes, I'm with you. I am a pretty sentimental guy so I typically would like to put more thought behind the gift selection, but I'm working against the clock. I was tasked with this last Friday, and he retires at the end of June.
 
Or the bolster. I wouldn’t engrave the blade. Ever. (Unfortunately this rules out the Lionsteel Otnat in Ram’s horn as it has no bolster. It would have been my recommendation as a more modern but classic daily user).

My thoughts

-engrave the bolster not the blade in traditional method
-don’t go with the Viper, its not special enough
-the GEC 44 is nice and could work
-maybe look at a Lionsteel Collector Knives exclusive, in a style with the bolster, such as the Dom or Shuffler.
 
Have you considered something even more traditional, like a regional French folding knife? I just bought two (a Le Thiers and a Capuchadou) and they are solid users, both in stainless steel, and could be engraved. I don't know how much you want the knife to be a USA-made sort of thing, but if you are looking for an "old world" feel, a French folder would be an exquisite choice.
 
Or the bolster. I wouldn’t engrave the blade. Ever. (Unfortunately this rules out the Lionsteel Otnat in Ram’s horn as it has no bolster. It would have been my recommendation as a more modern but classic daily user).

My thoughts

-engrave the bolster not the blade in traditional method
-don’t go with the Viper, its not special enough
-the GEC 44 is nice and could work
-maybe look at a Lionsteel Collector Knives exclusive, in a style with the bolster, such as the Dom or Shuffler.

I had considered engraving the bolster, but if i were to go with the GEC i was afraid that the pin placement might interfere with the engravable space.

I'm kind of with you about the Viper not being "special enough" but I don't necessarily think the Lionsteel knives seem any more special.
 
Laser engraving may be the only way to engrave a hardened and tempered blade.

I'll second the Jeweler suggestion and engraving the shield or bolsters.
A jeweler could also replace the factory shield with whatever karat gold you want, or sterling silver.
I remember "back in the day" men received a gold pocket watch when they retired. (I don't know what the women got when they retired.)
A gold shield could be symbolic of the gold watch?
 
Probably not special enough for your gift but there is a certain Case dealer whom I cannot mention here that offers Trappers and Russlocks with the month you select and 2020 engraved on the shield and the date you select engraved on the bolster. The bolsters also have some fancy engraving on them.

Might be worth looking into if you haven't made a decision in a few days.
 
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I can only say what I'd like ;) Thus I think all answers will be in this vein and will be biased:D

Perhaps it's best to get back to his wife and ask what SORT of knife he likes to carry, I think this is vital and will give you a chance to think of single blade or multi blade.

The Viper would be great in Stag but that Oak is lacklustre in my view and it's Wharncliffe blade which can be divisive. But I think an all stainless construction could be best. However, if you opt for GEC there are readily available patterns, the recent Easy Pocket Congress 62 is a beautiful knife, 2 blades yet single spring so slim and good to carry. It too is Wharncliffe though.

Engraving? This is where I cannot contain myself:eek: Frankly, engraving knives, pens, watches etc mars them, it never looks good and it seems uninspired, can't stand it myself and however nice a knife it ruins it for me. I'd suggest having a little plaque made at an engraver or jeweller with his name and details so it CAN be displayed with the knife if he likes but if he prefers the knife unmutilated he can. Just my view, but you did ask:)
 
If you know an engraver who can do really small lettering....but recently in my experience most of them recommend laser...neater, a range of fonts and sizes...they will do flowing script or block letters...So Laser would be my choice.
As for wording....short and sweet....you're not writing his biography....
Name
" all the best"
"Good luck" keep it simple. He knows who its from and when he retired so I wouldnt put those details...
Let the knife itself do the talking as a memento.
Its hard to know because I dont know the guy.....stay away from humour even if he likes a laugh.
Good Luck with it.
Bolster or shield.
 
I don't consider using a laser to burn away metal engraving any more than I consider a pantograph or stamping to be. Engraving is hand cut, just like scrimshaw is hand cut.

I've had a number of knives done over the years. My favorite engraver was Ron Nott (RIP), but there have been others.

Here's one place to look: http://www.fega.com/MemberWebPages/MasterPage1.asp

Sam's a great guy but probably too busy: http://www.masterengraver.com/

Russ Zima did this for me last year, he's reasonable and fast:http://www.rzengraving.com/

3YQhZJP.jpg
 
I don't consider using a laser to burn away metal engraving any more than I consider a pantograph or stamping to be. Engraving is hand cut, just like scrimshaw is hand cut.

I've had a number of knives done over the years. My favorite engraver was Ron Nott (RIP), but there have been others.

Here's one place to look: http://www.fega.com/MemberWebPages/MasterPage1.asp

Sam's a great guy but probably too busy: http://www.masterengraver.com/

Russ Zima did this for me last year, he's reasonable and fast:http://www.rzengraving.com/

3YQhZJP.jpg
Thank you; by far the most valuable advice in this thread.
 
Another thought I had was to buy whatever knife you think appropriate, and then get an engraved presentation box for it.
 
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