Returning a gift - get a Shun, Global, or go German?

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I'm returning a Shun Pro 8.25" deba that was given to me as a gift because it's too specialized of a knife.

How do the current production Wusthof knives compare to a Global or Shun Classic? I'm looking for a 10" classic French chef's knife shape. I know the Shun Classics use VG-10. How about the Global or Wusthofs?

Any other recommendations? The only requirement is that Williams Sonoma has to carry it because I'm returning for store credit.
 
Given you are tied to that company I think I would go with the Shun Classic Santoku Knife. I decided a few years ago that if I am willing to pay for a custom or semi-custom knife to carry that gets used just a few times a day why should I settle for less when it comes to the knives I use the most, my kitchen knives.
 
The choices are many. You must see how the knife feels in your hand. I favor the Ryback FB.
 
Hi -
I’m an avid cook and use a chef knife more than any other – combined. Over the years, I’ve owned / tried different brands, styles and lengths. It really important to choose one that best fits your hand size, grip preference, and cutting style.

The 10” + are good for large items like a watermelon or mass production meals, but too unwieldy for everyday use. I greatly prefer the 8” classic European style. The blade length is neither too short nor long, and shape is more utilitarian / better for cutting with the knife tip on the board than a Santuko design. The Santuko is better with veggies, but sits in the block b/c I can do everything better with a cheaper Asian vegetable cleaver.

I’ve used a Shun recently. Like my Japanese knives, they have slim handle that works well for pinch grips (three fingers on the handle); and harder steel, thinner blades and ubber thin edges that make them great for veggies and boneless meats, but maybe susceptible to chipping. Nice knife, but I’d be reserved to use it on bones or extremely hard vegetables, hard cutting board (like bamboo) or a chopping motion.

Globals are little heavier and stouter than the Shun with a very unique shaped handle. I would not recommend buying one without handling it first. My friends love them, but I find the handle shape very uncomfortable and metal handle very slippery.

Both the Shun and Global noticeably cut better and will probably hold an edge longer, but I prefer the ergonomics and balance of the Wusthof. The Wusthof – grand prix just feels more right in my hands. They also hold an edge better than other brands available at William Sonoma like Henckels and Sabatier.
 
I'm a huge Global fan. I rec'd a 3 piece set as a gift about two years ago and haven't touched my Wusthof's (Classic) since. Some find them slippery but the unique grip fits my hand perfectly and they feel very secure, even when wet. The thin blades slice like a razor and they hold their edge extremely well. That said, Global's aren't for everybody. I second the good advice given by other posters in this thread - handle several different brands and see what works for you.

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Given you are tied to that company I think I would go with the Shun Classic Santoku Knife. I decided a few years ago that if I am willing to pay for a custom or semi-custom knife to carry that gets used just a few times a day why should I settle for less when it comes to the knives I use the most, my kitchen knives.

Seconding this whole post including the recommendation. The Shun Santoku is my one and only.
 
My opinion is to avoid Global. I have a few (one was purchased and another was a gift). If you grip your knives in a hammer-type grip, then you'll like them. If you hold your chefs knives in a classic thumb and forefinger pinch grip on either side of the blade, you will find the blade/handle junction area underneath digs into your middle finger.
My wife and I checked out the various knives at both Williams-Sonoma and Macys (where we were registered when we got married) and decided on Wusthof.
We have been very pleased with our Wusthof knife set and that is what I would recommend...

As a side note, I have held and played with the Shun knives. They feel fine, but I don't think they are worth quite as much as they sell for...

Good luck!

-Mike
 
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I own the following:

  1. Henkels Pro 10" chef knife
  2. 8" Al Mar chef knife
  3. Henkels Pro Santoku
  4. Al Mar 5" utility
  5. Shun 5" utility
  6. Henkels paring knife
  7. Al Mar paring knife
  8. Shun paring knife

I've also used my brother's Globals extensively.

My opinions:

  • 10" is too much knife for the kitchen - the Henkels chef knife has been banished to permanent duty in our camp trailer. Does that sound like a waste of a good blade? It sure does, but a 10" blade isn't very handy in the kitchen.
  • German knives are heavier, thicker and sturdier than japanese knives. Japanese knives are thinner, more delicate, but generally take and keep a much sharper edge.
  • Globals have a crappy handle design if you're cutting anything greasy. They slip and slide.

I have used all of the knives above and have settled on the following combination for everyday use:

Al Mar 8" chef knife - nice and light and thin with a wickedly sharp edge - good for precision work and with delicate items. I use this on meats and tomatoes and most veggies. I'd say this is comparable to a Shun.

Henkels Santoku - heavy and thick and strong. Easy to control. Lots of usable blade edge - especially when rocking. I use this for stuff with bones or other heavy things.

Shun Utility - super light and thin and wickedly sharp - I use this for precision utility work. I don't use paring knives at all - the Utility works better for me.

A couple of cheap serrated steak knives made from blanks from Texas Knivemaker Supplies - I use these for crude utility work. My wife uses them to break down cardboard. If I didn't have these, she'd use the Shuns.

That's my $0.02.
 
As soon as I bought my first Santuko knife with Kullens I hardly use anything else. I use the Wustoff myself but there are lot's of good choices.
 
Go shun or wusthof,both are thin edged so usuaully sharper than anything else. The shun has a 10" chef's which is very nice because it has no bolster so it seems light in the hand. also look at the shun santoku. I don't think I would get a 10" wusthof.I have an eight inch chef's that is plenty big.
 
I have a full set of Wusthofs and do appreciate their heft, but I'm really looking to try something Asian since I keep hearing how much sharper they are and how the steel is better. I have a santoku and appreciate that some love them, but I hardly ever use mine and reach for an 8" Wusthof classic chef's knife 99.5% of the time.

A friend of mine who is a professional chef is recommending I try the Shun Ken Onion 8". He uses that in his kitchen and says it's an ergonomic dream and the steel is the same as the regular Shuns.

I appreciate the advice on not getting the 10". I don't have one, but I can see how they're a bit much for the home kitchen. I just don't think I need that much blade.

For a civilian like me who doesn't use the knife professionally... is stepping up to a Shun Kaji overkill?
 
To me, kitchen knives are very personal....there`s no "one size fits all" mentality here. I cook a lot, and am always on the lookout for better tools....I have a full compliment of Wusthof Trident Classic (riveted wood handles), five or six Global knives, and a Chinese veggie cleaver (3 Rams brand, carbon steel, had it for 35 years). Tried the Shun/Onion chef`s knife, did`nt care for the handle shape. Of all my knives, I tend to use the 8" Wusthof chef`s, the Global 7" vegetable knife, and paring knives from both sets with regularity, choosing the most appropriate blade for the job at hand. The Globals are like surgical instruments, but need constant attention from the diamond steel to be at their best.
 
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