Review: Spyderco Vallotton

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Ever since I saw the first photo of this knife it became the most eagerly awaited Spyderco in human history (for me anwyay :D).
It arrived in the mail today. I always try not to get my expectations up too high because I might get disappointed but man what a knife this is.

The first thing you notice when you handle it is that though quite beefy, it's not as heavy as you might think. It's not light, but it's not heavy either. However, right after you overcome your surprise you are blown away by the fit&finish on this folder. I own one other Taiwanese-made Spyderco (the Gayle Bradley), and it is basically flawless. This knife has way more details in the design, and yet it is at least as well-made as the GB. Every transition from steel bolster and liner to G10 is perfectly smooth, it's always 100% flush. No amount of finalizing by an expert craftsman is going to make a noticeable difference. It really is amazing.

One of the reasons the Vallotton drew my eye so much is the Tanto shape. I love it, even though it's not always practical. But this knife makes it work, and at least as important, it is just beautiful to behold. The deep hollow grind transitioning into the thick strong convexed tip is a stroke of genius, no mounted samurai is safe from me when holding this knife. :D

The Vallotton is relatively unfriendly to pocket wear. The G10 scales are smooth (which is beneficient for wearing) but the frame and scales make it rather thick.
I don't care, however. I am used to wearing large folders and have longer thicker and heavier ones than this one. If you compare it to the Police 3 G10 however, this will feel like you've just inserted a Busse FBM LE into your FRP.

The blade is S30V and hair popping sharp. It's a Spyderco so this info is superfluous but I thought I'd mention it anyway. ;) Action is very smooth and the locking liner is very thick and confidence-inspiring. Lock-up is quite advanced, the righthand side of the liner is exactly halfway the tang. I don't consider it a problem, I am going to see if there will be much more wear after carrying and using the knife.

I have relatively small hands, but the Vallotton fits me perfectly. The jimping on the strongly protruding ramp is (like the GB's) quite superficial, unlike most US-made Spyderco's. It's a small hit against the knife, I like my thumb to get caught there and not budge one millimeter. Because the ends of the frame are flared however, there really is very little chance of your hand moving unto the blade by accident.

The G10 scales are polished to what is in effect a mirror shine, and it makes the grain come out just beautifully. The scales are not a simple black, they range from an almost metallic grey to charcoalblack. Just exquisite.
The bladestop is not inside the frame but outside on the blade, like Striders have (among other knives). They can effectively be used as thumbstuds, if you feel the need. Despite my being a Spyderco fan, I don't particularly like the opening hole and on the Vallotton in particular the ramp looks artificial to me, its sole purpose is to allow for the hole. I've held my fingers over the blade to imagine the knife without it and - to me - it would look even better. But that is a matter of taste, and as such not subject to debate. :)

Weight is 177 grams, which translates to 6.2 ounces. Compare that to the XM-18 (which happened to be in my pocket when the mailman arrived) which is 160 grams, or 5.6 ounces.
Here's the specs according to Spyderco:
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length overall	8 11/16 in (221 mm)	blade length	3 3/4 in (95 mm)   	blade steel	        CPM S30V
length closed	5 in (127 mm)	        cutting edge	3 9/16 in (90 mm)	weight	        6.2 oz (176 g)
hole diameter	1/2 in (13 mm)	        blade thickness	5/32 in (4 mm)	        handle material	G-10

What remains is some gratuitous knife porn. :D WHAT AN AWESOME KNIFE THIS IS. THANK YOU SAL GLESSER AND COMPANY!

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Thanks for the great review. I had put off buying one -- don't need another $200 ish Spyderco, but you have me thinking.
 
Great review. I've toyed with the thought of ordering this knife. I like how it looks but the weight to blade length ratio prevents me from pulling the trigger. Also, I think you're right about the Spyderhole, in this case it does seem to mar the overall blade design.
 
Great review. I've toyed with the thought of ordering this knife. I like how it looks but the weight to blade length ratio prevents me from pulling the trigger.
For the type of build this knife is, the weight is really good actually, like I said, from the looks you'd think it would weigh a lot more.

Also, I think you're right about the Spyderhole, in this case it does seem to mar the overall blade design.
'Mar' is a bit harsh. ;) There's no denying, it's definitely a Spyderco. :D
 
So what do you think about the liner lock protruding out of the finger choil? I still can't figure out why they did that UNLESS it was for strength (since it is not a tall knife, there may not have been enough material to make a strong lock if it was cut down into the finger choil).

Wish it came in a differrent steel...maybe a sprint run in S110V?

Not critiquing the review...just the design of the knife.
 
So what do you think about the liner lock protruding out of the finger choil?
Honestly you don't notice it at all holding the knife.

I still can't figure out why they did that UNLESS it was for strength (since it is not a tall knife, there may not have been enough material to make a strong lock if it was cut down into the finger choil).
I think it's done like that in response to criticisms on the GB, which has a deeply recessed liner, somewhat harder to disengage, although personally I have no throuble with that either.

Wish it came in a differrent steel...maybe a sprint run in S110V?
Nicer steel is always, well, nicer. ;) S30V is no slouch though. And affordable compared to such supersteels.
 
Thanks for the review! This one is definitely on my list. The Taiwan made Spydercos are without a doubt, some of the best made, mass-productions knives from any brand.
 
Thanks for the review, Im really looking foreword to picking one of these up soon.
 
Wonderful pics! I personally like the Spydie hole! It wouldnt be a Spydie without a hole!! And im sure it helps in opening the blade. I will be ordering one. Cheers!
 
Wish it came in a differrent steel...maybe a sprint run in S110V?

Not critiquing the review...just the design of the knife.

That's the problem right there my friend. This knife model is not for everyone, and you made note of that in your second line

If Spyderco was to make this knife in a very special steel and increase the price, who's going to buy it besides me?



Anyhow. I enjoy this knife quite a bit and have since sharpened the factory edge to 21 Degrees per side, tip included. I won't be stabbing anything anytime soon!

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Very nicely done review.

It is a overall gorgeous knife, and the G10 is truly beautiful.
The f&f are up there with the best Spydercos.

It is a bit heavy, so might not be the perfect EDC for some folks.

I agree the hole does not flow with the rest of the knife and doesn't look quite right. I talked to Mr. Vollotton about it at Blade and he basically agreed, and said he tried to get as low as he could.
Its a minor complaint and easily overlooked on such a supurb knife.
And after all it is a Spydie, so it has to have a hole. ;)

So what do you think about the liner lock protruding out of the finger choil?

It does stick out quite a bit, almost enough to be troubling.

It also doesnt realy flow with the lines of the knife.

I think it's done like that in response to criticisms on the GB.
Thats the best explanation I've heard so far.
If that is the reason I think they may have overreacted. :D
The GB did catch a lot of flak for that, but it wasn't really that bad once you figured it out.
 
Wonderful pics! I personally like the Spydie hole! It wouldnt be a Spydie without a hole!! And im sure it helps in opening the blade. I will be ordering one. Cheers!
I'll tell you this though: that ramp has acted as a wave feature of sorts twice already (pulling it out of a tight pocket) and if you don't expect it, that is nasty. Not cool. :grumpy:
 
Thats the best explanation I've heard so far.
If that is the reason I think they may have overreacted. :D
The GB did catch a lot of flak for that, but it wasn't really that bad once you figured it out.
The recessed locking liner never bothered me at all, I think the lack of effective jimping on the GB deserved a lot more attention - but the Vallotton is equally 'handicapped.' Of course a Spyderco needs a hole (not AFAIC but that's just how it is) but it should also have effective jimping. They all do, and, speaking strictly for myself, it's a more useful property. I'm a thumstud kinda guy, and I buy Spyderco's IN SPITE of the hole, not because of it. :D
 
Nice blade.
A true collector's item.

I was never a big fan of Vallotton designed knives, but this one looks good.
I had a Timberline Vallotton (Spring assisted) that I pretty much hated.
The thumbstud was used as a stop pin, and that thumbstud was screwed on together cheaply so every now and then it becomes loose. I can't imagine loosing those thumbstuds.
 
I had a Timberline Vallotton (Spring assisted) that I pretty much hated.
The thumbstud was used as a stop pin, and that thumbstud was screwed on together cheaply so every now and then it becomes loose. I can't imagine loosing those thumbstuds.
Sounds nore like a Timberline issue than a Vallotton one. ;)
 
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