Ruike Trekker and Criterion, what a SAK should be

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panoz77

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I just noticed these by Ruike. IMO, this is what a SAK should be or at least should have evolved into by now. One hand opening operation, removable G-10 scales, integral glass breaker on most models, locking blades AND the most important a semi-deep pocket carry clip. Steel is Sandvik 12C27, I'm planning on getting a Trekker LD-32B. They also have a Criterion collection without the thumb stud for one hand operation but all the other multi-function tool add-on configurations.
 
Well, Victorinox have been offering OHO locking folders for years now. I don’t own a single one because that is not what I want from a SAK.

It sounds like you perceive Victorinox to be all about emergency response (I used to work in frontline emergency services), with glass breakers as standard. Again, there are plenty of options available, not made by Victorinox.

Perhaps you should contact them and enlighten them as to what is, in your opinion, the right direction for them to take; they could move their production base to China too, I suppose.

Then, after they have listened, they can show you their annual sales, and you can all have a good laugh about it. :thumbsup:
 
I appreciate your snark, but why don't you comment on the knife and try not to just oppose everything I posted? G-10 removable scales, one hand open in combination with locking blade in combination with semi-deep pocket clip. Where does any SAK offer that? You don't own a single SAK and still have a very opposing position, hmmmm?

As for glass breakers, where did I mention anything about emergency response? There are many situations where a glass breaker would come in handy for personal use not involving "emergency response".

Also, what is the problem with China manufacture? Ruike is not a "cloner" or "counterfeiter", so what's with the anti-Chinese rhetoric?
 
I like the looks of it. Very SAK-esqe. But what is the big advantage of removable scales? Other than that and a glass breaker its really just their version of a SAK IMO.
Have these guys ever had an original idea?
 
panoz77 said:
I appreciate your snark, but why don't you comment on the knife and try not to just oppose everything I posted? G-10 removable scales, one hand open in combination with locking blade in combination with semi-deep pocket clip. Where does any SAK offer that? You don't own a single SAK and still have a very opposing position, hmmmm?

As for glass breakers, where did I mention anything about emergency response? There are many situations where a glass breaker would come in handy for personal use not involving "emergency response".
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I struggle to see how a glass breaker is useful outside of an emergency. The only time I’ve used one I was in uniform and the specialist team from the fire brigade were delayed - it was a very serious emergency.

And I was responding to your own words, and indeed to the title of this thread. You can call it snark, but perhaps you should consider the words of your OP more carefully? “...what a SAK should be” - your words not mine.

So, show us the knife, give us the specs, price etc. If you want comments on the Ruike, you need to at least provide a link. And why mention SAK at all, if all you want is to talk about a knife with which few here are familiar?
 
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Well, having used SAK's now for about 49 years, I still don't own a SAK that's a locking blade, glass breaker, or one hand opening. Come to think about it, I don't own a unhand opening knife at all, and never have. Somehow I've got by using a Tinker, recruit, or my old stand by the Wenger SI for most my pocket knife jobs. And being old school, I detest pocket clips that get in the way and snag on things. I like my pocket knife where it's supposed to be; deep down in my pocket.

SAK's are many things to many people. They have been in business for well over a century making products for all those many people in many places. I hope they keep on doing so. For a number of decades now, Victorinox is the worlds biggest knife company, with Opinel running second. They must be doing something right for us peons who don't know what a SAK should be.
 
I would love a SAK with a factory pocket clip and locking blade, they don't offer one. This is exactly what I've been looking for in a SAK. I have a few and other than the classic, they are just annoying and uncomfortable "deep in a pocket".
 
Pilsner said:
I struggle to see how a glass breaker is useful outside of an emergency. The only time I’ve used one I was in uniform and the specialist team from the fire brigade were delayed - it was a very serious emergency.

And I was responding to your own words, and indeed to the title of this thread. You can call it snark, but perhaps you should consider the words of your OP more carefully? “...what a SAK should be” - your words not mine.

So, show us the knife, give us the specs, price etc. If you want comments on the Ruike, you need to at least provide a link. And why mention SAK at all, if all you want is to talk about a knife with which few here are familiar?
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Look it up, Google is tough to use but you'll get the hang of it one day.
 
panoz77 said:
I would love a SAK with a factory pocket clip and locking blade, they don't offer one. This is exactly what I've been looking for in a SAK. I have a few and other than the classic, they are just annoying and uncomfortable "deep in a pocket".
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Get one of these. Extrema Ratio m1a1

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Victorinox has been making quite a number of OHO locking multi-tool knives for awhile now. So just because they don't offer them with pocket clips that make Ruike imitations "What a SAK should be"? o_O
 
panoz77 said:
Look it up, Google is tough to use but you'll get the hang of it one day.
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Nope, why on earth would I do that if the OP can’t even be bothered? Dumb threads get dumb answers. And with that, I’ll leave you to imagining a world where SAK make the knives you want them to make, and I’ll be content using and buying the knives they actually do make. Everybody’s happy. Good luck with your thread.
 
Pilsner said:
Nope, why on earth would I do that if the OP can’t even be bothered? Dumb threads get dumb answers. And with that, I’ll leave you to imagining a world where SAK make the knives you want them to make, and I’ll be content using and buying the knives they actually do make. Everybody’s happy. Good luck with your thread.
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Yes, posted in a sub-forum where SAK clearly get a lot of love!
Is there a name for that?:rolleyes:
 
panoz77 said:
I would love a SAK with a factory pocket clip and locking blade, they don't offer one. This is exactly what I've been looking for in a SAK. I have a few and other than the classic, they are just annoying and uncomfortable "deep in a pocket".
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Then you don't want a SAK and victorinox doesn't want or need to make what you want them to, they are doing just fine making what they already make.

Not once have I said to myself I wish Vic would make what these things are and clearly most people haven't done so either.

So go buy and enjoy the tool, but realize that when you say a tool should be what one of the already most functional and beloved tools should be, most will not agree.
 
Sure buddy, I'm "trolling". What is your problem with Ruike and why would posting one of their innovative knives be trolling? I'm planning on buying on soon, already have a Ruike P801 and it is a really nice knife so I know they make quality products.
 
danbot said:
Awesome! I have the farmer. Almost the same, but no scissors.
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Farmer is my other Alox, such a fab knife. Thought I would treat myself for the day job - scissors likely to come in handier than the saw most days! :)
 
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