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Right, so KAI competes with Spyderco on all fronts really. That was my point, just poorly illustrated.

Spyderco I think is about the only manufacturer of budget and high end knives that doesn't fall victim to this. Maybe with the Tenacious.
 
T.L.E. Sharp said:
Right, so KAI competes with Spyderco on all fronts really. That was my point, just poorly illustrated.

Spyderco I think is about the only manufacturer of budget and high end knives that doesn't fall victim to this. Maybe with the Tenacious.
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I have a Tenacious and really like it. 8Cr and China but feels like quality. Good knife!
 
T.L.E. Sharp said:
Right, so KAI competes with Spyderco on all fronts really. That was my point, just poorly illustrated.

Spyderco I think is about the only manufacturer of budget and high end knives that doesn't fall victim to this. Maybe with the Tenacious.
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Tenacious and Resilience both, very nice knives, I own them both. I would think that Sypderco's Byrd line is akin to Kershaw vs. ZT.
 
T.L.E. Sharp said:
Oh, we somehow made it this far into the thread without mentioning...

Almost everything from CRKT!!

Seriously. They've got more great designs than anyone else and have ruined nearly all of them.
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I'll do my weekly stand up for CRKT post:

I got a Crossbones for Christmas and it's a quality knife even with AUS8 and aluminum. The AUS8 is done correctly it flips nicely and it'll fall shut with a little shake. While I still predominantly carry my Sebenza if there's a day I know I'm going to be stuck in my office I carry it because it's lighter and smaller in the pocket.
 
LG&M said:
Most of Kershaw's stuff. The Cryo for one. Could have been great. Even with "good" steel.
I haven't looked at CRKT lately but they are about the same.
If you can't do it right just don't do it.
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There was already a Cryo with better steel, and it is called ZT 0556.
 
SoCalEDC said:
With 8Cr, come usually, crap internals as well. Thats why knives in 8Cr are normally under $50.
8Cr is great if your just doing light duty cutting tasks here and there.
I carry an 8Cr knife when I travel on a plane. If I lose it..there is the "who cares" factor.
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I do this too. After having some expensive knives thieved out of my checked baggage by the TSA--I love that even when they steal your stuff they leave an inspected slip in your bag, that's a nice eff-you-very-much touch, I think--I've taken to only checking cheap CRKT flippers, usually the Carajas or Sampa or something similar.
 
Quiet said:
For what it's worth, Emerson DOES make both these knives, I have the knife the top one is modeled after, the Appalachian. It cost me around $140 on the secondary market, but I like Emersons and don't mind paying those prices for those materials. The bottom knife is patterned off some custom, if I recall correctly, which means that you won't find that sort of price on the few of those there are.
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Yes, but when Kershaw makes an Emerson the quality is so much higher. Source: I own Kemersons, Zemersons and Emersons and how well made they are goes in this order: Zemerson > Kemerson > Emerson.

Emersons seem to be assembled by monkeys with a learning disability who were working in a very dark room at night with no lighting.
 
evilgreg said:
Yes, but when Kershaw makes an Emerson the quality is so much higher. Source: I own Kemersons, Zemersons and Emersons and how well made they are goes in this order: Zemerson > Kemerson > Emerson.

Emersons seem to be assembled by monkeys with a learning disability who were working in a very dark room at night with no lighting.
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The few Emersons Ive handled/owned (I currently have but one), seemed to be okay albeit industrial but that was pretty funny:D

Im hardly a Emerson fanatic - I can take them or leave them.

Lets just say, they serve their function/niche.

I had a Kemerson and for the price, the quality was surprisingly good....for the price.
 
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GB940Rookie said:
Couldn't agree more on the Blackout. Wonderful knife in hand. I would love a ZT version of this blade.
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The Blackout is pretty cool, when they first came a long time ago I bought two of them at a police supply/uniform store. They were close to $100 each then.:eek::)
 
evilgreg said:
Yes, but when Kershaw makes an Emerson the quality is so much higher. Source: I own Kemersons, Zemersons and Emersons and how well made they are goes in this order: Zemerson > Kemerson > Emerson.

Emersons seem to be assembled by monkeys with a learning disability who were working in a very dark room at night with no lighting.
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You turd, you went on an Emerson kick for awhile! You and Ernie had a brew and played golf:D now he hires primates to assemble his knives in a dark closet lol
 
SoCalEDC said:
I have a Tenacious and really like it. 8Cr and China but feels like quality. Good knife!
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My very first Spyderco was a Persistence and that sold me on Spyderco. Even though its 8cr, imho the average consumer would not be disappointed with it's performance at all.
 
shinyedges said:
You turd, you went on an Emerson kick for awhile! You and Ernie had brew and played golf:D now he hires primates to assemble his knives in a dark closet lol
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I didn't go all pro-Emerson, exactly, I just worked to find some slightly-less-awful than normal Emersons and have tried to accept them, warts and all.

I do carry this one semi-regularly (though I've since added some more bling to it, a thumb disk made from a Federal .45 cartridge) though. It only has a bit of lock stick, and the custom scales line up much better than the stock ones did.

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I do still want to have that drink with EE, though. It's not often I get offered the opportunity to share whisky with an industry icon. ;)
 
evilgreg said:
I didn't go all pro-Emerson, exactly, I just worked to find some slightly-less-awful than normal Emersons and have tried to accept them, warts and all.

I do carry this one semi-regularly (though I've since added some more bling to it, a thumb disk made from a Federal .45 cartridge) though. It only has a bit of lock stick, and the custom scales line up much better than the stock ones did.

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I do still want to have that drink with EE, though. It's not often I get offered the opportunity to share whisky with an industry icon. ;)
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I see what you did there at the end, please lets make his head bigger than it already is. That's a great idea!

I'm just giving you a hard time, I know the progression of your emerson story.
 
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